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Where have all the Chinese gone? Thai media say TAT in denial about tourism numbers in Pattaya

 

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Pictures: Sophon Cable

 

Thai media Sophon Cable TV has suggested that tourism officials in Chonburi are in denial about a crisis facing Pattaya.

 

They said that operators were reporting that Chinese visitors to Pattaya were down 60%.

 

But the Chonburi and Pattaya tourism reps were countering that this was not the case. 

 

They were putting a rosy spin on the reality.

 

While accepting that third quarter arrivals of Chinese in Pattaya this year were down on 2017 the situation could be explained in part due to less Chinese visitors coming on group tours, it was claimed. 

 

They said that increasing numbers of Chinese were now known as "FIT" travelers - that is to say they are organizing their own trips and are thus difficult to quantify. 

 

Sophon was reporting after a meeting at Garden Seaview Resort crunched the numbers and heard opinions. Present were TAT officials and local businessmen and operators. 

 

Some claimed Chinese visitors were down 60%.

 

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Mrs Amphai Sakdanukoonjit from Chonburi Tourism and Sports said that last year 17 million tourists visited Chonburi and 14.6 million came to Pattaya.

 

Figures up to August this year show that there really isn't all that much difference in last year and this when it comes to tourist numbers and tourist spending. 

 

Though she conceded that safety - especially water safety - was of concern to the Chinese.

 

The meeting heard that 40% of all tourist deaths in Thailand were Chinese tourists.

 

Other measures like easier visa on arrival would help the situation, said Amphai. 

 

Others told the meeting that figures for tourism were up in the earlier part of 2018. But since then the drop off in Chinese tourism has meant a third quarter fall of at least 10-12%. 

 

The message was that while the overall 2018 figures don't look too bad something needs to be done to avert a crisis as the underlying trend now is definitely down. 

 

Source: Sophon Cable

 
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Why is everyone in Thailand so intently focused on the cost of the visa as the deciding factor for tourists whether they come or not? It is so odd. It is so wide of the mark. Like a mantra repeated without thought.

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Drowning them by the boatload could literally affect numbers🤔

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7 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Why is everyone in Thailand so intently focused on the cost of the visa as the deciding factor for tourists whether they come or not? It is so odd. It is so wide of the mark. Like a mantra repeated without thought.

Yes, I'm sure that not many people will decide to go to Thailand , just because visas are free

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11 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Why is everyone in Thailand so intently focused on the cost of the visa as the deciding factor for tourists whether they come or not? It is so odd. It is so wide of the mark. Like a mantra repeated without thought.

"Like a mantra repeated without thought."

Confucius he say "Thai person who repeats mantra, does so without thought"

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That's what happens when you take money but do not put any of it back into the system for clean beaches, safety and so on. The no smoking beach idea was clever too, think alot of the Chinese still smoke.

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Chinese numbers are down ? Not my impression here in the Naklua area, 100's of buses passing every day full of them .  The fruit vendors are busy , the Chinese restaurants are busy .

But please do not send us more of them. 

 

 

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TAT will "spin" it any and every way they can to paint a rosy picture, even when the reality of things are slapping them in the face.  Businesses and hotels depending on the Chinese are shutting down daily.  I've read that some hotels are experiencing a 60% drop off rate from last year, and that many small businesses who depend on the Chinese trade have had to shut down due to lack of business.

You can't believe a word of the TAT b.s., as they are always going to make it sound all rosy and well, even when they know it's not. 

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21 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Why is everyone in Thailand so intently focused on the cost of the visa as the deciding factor for tourists whether they come or not? It is so odd. It is so wide of the mark. Like a mantra repeated without thought.

Projection. They are so obsessed with money that they think everyone else is too. 

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Many factors and one of the primary ones is the Strength of the Thai BAHT - big money in Thailand wants a strong BAHT simply because they want to invest overseas both in business and property

 

As for Chinese - I predicted on here a couple of years ago that Chinese tourists will drop for a couple of reasons, been there done that and told friends and family don't bother, very unlikely (unlike western tourists) to be repeat visitors. Safety

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1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Drowning them by the boatload could literally affect numbers🤔

When they wash ashore TAT gets to count them as a return visit... :coffee1:

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2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Why is everyone in Thailand so intently focused on the cost of the visa as the deciding factor for tourists whether they come or not? It is so odd. It is so wide of the mark. Like a mantra repeated without thought.

They would be better employed focusing on Tourist safety me thinks

Better and improved safety standards across the whole Tourist Sector might, - just might bring back some Tourists.

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Kim J above is on the right path. The Chinese are not blind to the garbage in the streets, the dirty beaches, lack of road safety, the feeling they're being stripped of cash by every provider, the hassles against their Chinese-speaking tour guides, high costs of cigarettes and hard liquor, and repeated news reports of Chinese fatalities in tour bus and ferry boat crashes. And I wonder what they're saying as they watch local police parade around like peacocks. 

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In some ways tourism is like prostitution.

 

The tourist (aka customer) pays to use the country (aka prostitute) for a specified period of time, and then goes away. But the Chinese tourist comes to Thailand, uses the country for his amusement…and then becomes infatuated. He starts coming back to see her and pay her every night.

 

She now has a steady customer. It’s safe, predictable and much easier than having to work someone new every day. There’s a reliable cash flow and business is booming. She can ignore other potential customers because her steady will give her money indefinitely. There’s no need to save money, or invest money, or use the money to create a more sustainable business. Life is good.

 

Then the customer stops coming every day. Maybe he’s busy, maybe he’s bored, or maybe he’s just beginning to feel uncomfortable. She doesn’t understand why and she doesn’t want to admit that her customer has moved on. She makes excuses and keeps watching the door...trying to convince herself that the steady customer will return.

 

But maybe no more happy ending...

 

 

 

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