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Tourist Police target rental operators over unlicensed tourists renting motorbikes

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4 hours ago, Nice Boyd said:

There are Motorbike and scooters all over the city of San Francisco, thst you rent remotely No License, Required, what’s the Big Deal 

 

they are trying to reduce the number of motorcycle related deaths and injuries on the roads, while this may be a drop in the ocean it is a least better than doing nothing. just.

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If all tourists were in possession of a motorcycle license from their own countries, then it might mean that they have some idea of how to ride a motorcycle or a scooter! They could be a little safer riding here.......but not much. Here it takes great care and time to learn this craziness and many never learn.....

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Actually that's a good idea.  Nobody without a motorcycle endorsement and experience should be driving a cycle or scooter.  It's dangerous to begin with and in Thailand it's close to being suicidal. 

However, if implemented in a place like Pai, they'd kill the local businesses. 

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11 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I think valid insurance, by both the rental operators and the renters themselves, should also be mandatory, and checked for. 

Yes indeed. Also a valid International driving licence for cars or bikes.

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4 hours ago, Blue bruce said:

Do they mean Thai license or license of you country. The article does not mention ????

To be completely legal you'd need to have a valid driver's license with a motorcycle endorsement and an International Driver's Permit.  My guess is they'll forgo the motorcycle endorsement (the important part) and go with just a valid license and IDP.  The IDP is what most tourist don't have, well, that and any experience actually driving a motorcycle.  I've seen tourists in Pai.  It's scary, but Pai traffic isn't quite like driving in Chiang Mai or Bangkok.  It's a little more forgiving, and imho the foreign motorcyclists are a whole lot scarier than the average Thai drivers.

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2 hours ago, Redline said:

How many tourists have motorcycle licenses from their home countries? 

And if they don't have one they shouldn't be allowed to hire a bike......simple as that. Why on earth would you consider it safe to let untrained idiots drive on roads when they come on holiday?

 

Can't do it in their own countries but can practise here and poss kill or maim someone.....absolute madness.

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12 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I think valid insurance, by both the rental operators and the renters themselves, should also be mandatory, and checked for. 

And take all the fun away lol. Your dreaming can't be policed. 2 well add bye next

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The solution (I believe) for the rental companies may be the electric scooter. No need for a license in most countries where the tourists are from. Speed limited to 70 kph, Range of about 80Km. That should suit the needs of most tourists. Hotels could both rent bikes and provide/charge for overnight charging. Of course, would still be involved in accidents but they would not be breaking the limitations/restrictions of their travel insurance. Just a thought.

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2 hours ago, connda said:

To be completely legal you'd need to have a valid driver's license with a motorcycle endorsement and an International Driver's Permit.  My guess is they'll forgo the motorcycle endorsement (the important part) and go with just a valid license and IDP.  The IDP is what most tourist don't have, well, that and any experience actually driving a motorcycle.  I've seen tourists in Pai.  It's scary, but Pai traffic isn't quite like driving in Chiang Mai or Bangkok.  It's a little more forgiving, and imho the foreign motorcyclists are a whole lot scarier than the average Thai drivers.

Technically you do not need an IDP if your driver's license is in English. That is what Thailand has agreed to according to international driving conventions they have agreed to and endorsed. That is because Thai police are supposed to be literate enough in English to ascertain whether you have a motorcycle endorsement on your license. Of course, this is not true for probably 99% of police. Police carry with them a copy of the IDP (which incidentally does not have a Thai language translation) and where it has to be stamped to show you have a motorcycle endorsement. As long as your IDP is stamped in the appropriate squares you are good to go.

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A figure bandied about Pattaya Soi 9 station is an average daily take of 170,000 Baht in motoring fines, thats over 5 mil a month.....why not try and get more

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8 hours ago, Nice Boyd said:

There are Motorbike and scooters all over the city of San Francisco, thst you rent remotely No License, Required, what’s the Big Deal 

Well there is no reason that Thailand should follow the IMBECILES  of San Francisco.

Without a valid MDL they will not be covered by  Insurance, thus, neither the rider/driver OR ANYONE THEY HIT Will be covered by Insurance.

So how does that grab you ?

 

Some fool who shouldn’t be riding/driving demolishes you and/ or your property, they have NO INSURANCE... you’re going to try and take them to court for compensation ?

GOOD LUCK SCHMUCK !

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7 hours ago, jethro69 said:

In fact I was given back the national license all the times without any checking. They had only looked at the international one, and it didn't appear that police was knowing what to check.

More interesting would be if you covered insurance-wise without a Thai DL?

 

"More interesting would be if you covered insurance-wise without a Thai DL?" - you are covered because you are riding here legally, as in, you are licensed, under the convention.

 

Now, if you are speeding, drunk, no helmet, negligent etc, that may see your insurance void. 

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5 hours ago, xylophone said:

And if they don't have one they shouldn't be allowed to hire a bike......simple as that. Why on earth would you consider it safe to let untrained idiots drive on roads when they come on holiday?

 

Can't do it in their own countries but can practise here and poss kill or maim someone.....absolute madness.

 

"And if they don't have one they shouldn't be allowed to hire a bike.." - I agree.  Trouble is, with the transport "situation" on Phuket, those who can not hire a motorbike, due to not being licensed, which may not necessarily mean that they can't ride a motorbike, may not come to Phuket at all. 

 

200 baht a day to hire a motorbike for 24 hours, versus 200 baht just to get into a tuk-tuk. 

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22 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I think valid insurance, by both the rental operators and the renters themselves, should also be mandatory, and checked for. 

who will offer such an insurance for rental bikes you cant even get it for your own bike if its not big enough cc

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