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I would guess a lot of Thais are staying with friends, cheaper out of town motels etc. a few years ago the more expensive boutiques hotels surrounding us were packed with thai tourists, but not any more . The Thais are still there on the roads but I would guess they are saving on accommodation costs from what I see.

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1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

My wife works at a tourist attraction in the Mesa Valley, business is booming and she's rushed off her feet, fewer Chinese but still plenty of tourists. AND, try driving the 107 and 1096 on a weekend, it's becoming manic with huge delays and queues. Sooo, if Muang is lite on tourists I don't know where the ones we're seeing are staying and eating. 

maybe those complaining have themselves to blame, perhaps they have done what many Thai pub and grub owners do - get greedy and put up prices when the going is good and get into a vicious circle as custom dwindles - the effect - they price themselves out of the market and wonder why customers not come back, I see it all around Pattaya - there are several good well priced pubs in Pattaya and they are all booming - others not so much.

 

A fine example of this type of mentality is on a little street in Ban Chang just outside Pattaya, years ago it was a great little place to escape for a few hours or even a couple of days, it is now barren because they are charging ridiculous prices for drinks - they effectively destroyed what was once a little goldmine, 90-100baht for a 25ml measure of sangsom costing 9baht is quite frankly shocking, 750ml at 280 baht a bottle, are they blaming lack of farang tourists - probably but that is just so wrong, they have only themselves to blame, to an extent Walking Street and soi 6 in pattaya have gone the same way.

 

I can sit in in a busy bar in Soi 6 in Pattaya drinking a 60baht bottle of beer and look 15 feet across the road to an empty bar who are charging 90 baht for the same beer and they likely blame lack of tourists for having no customers and these bars are very likely Thai owned

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ape1983 said:

Doe you really believe these articles? the high season traffic in CNX is already super busy. Im guessing more and more Thais are visiting with their own transport. Thai familys surely make the perfect customers for restaurants, hotels etc. No complaining about being vegan, gluten free, no oil in food. Thai people seem to be the biggest spenders in the more upmarket places in Chiang Mai with many wealthy Bangkok people visiting regularly to take advantage of the outdoor pursuits such as trail running and cycling. 

The positive correlation between Thai cars on the roads and benefits to local economy is probably not as great as some are assuming. Some Chiang Mai eateries, especially the well known ones will benefit, local markets will benefit, gas stations will benefit and of course the temples will benefit. Outside of that you would need to do an extensive survey.

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The photo in the O.P. the middle one with the empty tables , that is a photo of Temple grounds ans its only open on Sundays from early evenings  , I was there last Sunday night and had to leave because it was so busy and nowhere to sit  

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

I can sit in in a busy bar in Soi 6 in Pattaya drinking a 60baht bottle of beer and look 15 feet across the road to an empty bar who are charging 90 baht for the same beer and they likely blame lack of tourists for having no customers and these bars are very likely Thai owned

Soi 6 is not a place where respectable people would go. And Pattaya is now full of quality tourists, officially. Therefore, not many patrons for Soi6...

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2 hours ago, cmsally said:

I would guess a lot of Thais are staying with friends, cheaper out of town motels etc. a few years ago the more expensive boutiques hotels surrounding us were packed with thai tourists, but not any more . The Thais are still there on the roads but I would guess they are saving on accommodation costs from what I see.

Panmivan was fully booked when we visited for lunch last week, that's far from a budget hotel, up to 25k baht for some villa's.

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The out of town resorts are always near to full this time of year. But the other 8 months of the year must be tough going. Also as in most countries, the economics of the chain/larger hotels doesn't always have to be based on self reliance.

Chiang Mai resorts have it even tougher these days as by January there is often the factor of rising pollution to cut short their season.

A more reliable indicator of the situation would be a local stand alone business.

Thais are often their own worst enemy with their tendency to head for the new posh place in town inevitably owned by some conglomerate.

 

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It's like this everywhere outside Bangkok and Pattaya. There are no jobs for the next generation and almost all new factories and other companies opens in Bangkok. So, if it continues like this where already about 1/4 of the Thai population today live and work in the Bangkok Metropolis... then this will become a country where anything outside the biggest cities are nothing more than tourist destinations!
One example is the small city (50,000 registered people) where I live, basically 90% of the population that are between school age and 50+ don't live here, they live and work in Bangkok while the "grandparents" that lives here are raising the children and keeps the local stores and farms running, and those you see here that are between 20-50years old are either working in some form of government job or their spouses are!

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3 hours ago, webfact said:

Some were hoping that more Western tourists would fill their place especially during the next few months.

You mean, the 'Western tourist' that the TAT, hotel associations, and tour operators said they could care less about over the last few years?  Those 'Western tourists?'  :clap2:

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The surge in Chinese tourism to CM was because of the hit 2012 Chinese movie "Lost in Thailand" that was filmed in CM , one of Chinas most popular ever movies and that was the reason why many Chinese came to CM 

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The Chiang Mai tourist numbers have been in decline for years and the so-called high season is not happening. And now it seems the Chinese have learned that Chiang Mai is boring and has nothing much to offer.

 

Bring back the nightlife, no more early closing for bars, allow licences for more adult entertainments in the city.

 

 

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3 hours ago, worgeordie said:

But on the 4th November, there was a post on this forum 

which stated "Bookings Surge at Chiang Mai Hotels for Cool Season",

wishful thinking ?  or fake news.

 

regards worgeordie

What do you think, wishful thinking or fake news?

I think both.

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