Jump to content
BANGKOK 24 April 2019 03:51
webfact

Come back Farangs! Tourism in Chiang Mai decimated by Chinese exodus

Recommended Posts

5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

But on the 4th November, there was a post on this forum 

which stated "Bookings Surge at Chiang Mai Hotels for Cool Season",

wishful thinking ?  or fake news.

 

regards worgeordie

The usually BS!

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

The Chinese invasion caused the Farang exodus. 

You might be interested to consider that the exodus started with the russian invasion which preceded the Chinese. Their numbers suddenly plummeted as well. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, fanjita said:

ll very valid points but don't forget the ever continuing strong Thai Baht in all of this.  It's a relevant part of the jigsaw that is tourism.

Yes, and  most recently as the Baht starts to decline in value which would attract more tourists- the Bank of Thailand intervenes in the market forcing the Baht back up.  That helps a few wealthy Thais who travel frequently.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

But on the 4th November, there was a post on this forum 

which stated "Bookings Surge at Chiang Mai Hotels for Cool Season",

wishful thinking ?  or fake news.

 

regards worgeordie

Apparently, burglary tours is the only thriving sector.

Three Chinese arrested on burglary charges

. . .  about 20 Chinese men from Guangxi province had entered Thailand in groups of three of four to commit burglaries in the jurisdictions of Provincial Police bureaus 1, 2, 5 and 6. - Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They need to offer some incentives to lure back the Chinese but defo no free boat trips🤔

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
37 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Thailand spent 50 years building up a strong brand in the West as an idyllic tourist destination, but the junta turned against Western tourism because Western governments (most notably John Kerry as US Secretary of State) gently asked about when the promised election would be, causing them to lose face.

The Chinese government ask no such questions and are happy to loan the money for the sort of major infrastructural projects that will allow the generals to keep socking away billions in their Swiss bank accounts for as long as they can cling onto power. (It is worth noting that new Malaysian government has rejected all such Chinese schemes as being a terrible deal that would leave their people with debt and other problems for decades to come).

Part of the necessary narrative was that China is the future, while the West is over, we don't need them, their tourists are low-quality, they have been short-changing Thailand for decades. The worst offenders were the farangs who had been visiting most often and who had the deepest ties to Thailand. That was why they made visas so much tougher and introduced ridiculous hurdles such as having to carry 20K in cash. The underlying message was "On the whole, we'd rather you didn't come here".

The familiar old Western tourism was not as exciting as the dizzying rise in Chinese tourism, mainly propelled by an (at the time) attractive exchange rate, a bubble economy in China, and the impact of Lost in Thailand, which became the highest grossing movie of all time in China when it was released in 2012. That made the idea of visiting Thailand fashionable, but fashions fade over time.

The Chinese will continue to come in large numbers, that is not going to change, and the also potentially huge wave of Indian tourists has not really even started yet, but no number of emerging countries are ever going to become a permanent replacement for the deeply entrenched Western tourism that the junta decided to piss away. We saw this with the Russians, with the Thai government making all sorts of specials deals such as eliminating airport taxes for Russian planes, and in they flooded for a few years, but now where are they?

If the junta do reduce Tourist Visa red-tape to the pre-junta levels, as rumored, that would indicate a realization, at some level, that they made a mistake, but the damage is already done and will take many years to reverse. Enough people are now aware of the possibility of being refused entry for some trivial reason, obliterating the previous image of Thailand as being "sabai sabai", a tropical idyll where you didn't have to deal with the red-tape of life at home.

Thailand is still, of course, a fine vacation destination in many ways, but it is no longer as easy to recommend as it once was. It has all been very foolish, entirely unnecessary, and very sad when you consider the amount of regular money that has been taken away from the parts of Thai society who needed it most - who, now, will pay the vet bills for all those sick buffalos? 

You were doing great until you glossed over the reason Russians stop coming failing to mention that it was economic down turn in Russia and nothing to do with Thailand or any of there policies. European and American down turn still hasn't totally recovered from 2008 although it does appear to be about over. The fact that a few people are refused entry because of an appearance of living here with the stamps and multiply tourist visas is not one of the pressing concerns of the occassional tourist who probably knows nothing about that particular crack down. 

  • Like 1
  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...