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I want to loss my weight

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On 11/23/2018 at 4:05 PM, bankruatsteve said:

A calorie is a unit of energy  There are different types of energy but a calorie is a calorie whether being consumed or expended.

Different efficiencies of engine though....

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On 11/23/2018 at 2:15 PM, ThaidDown said:

Eat less and exercise more. It's not difficult.

 

Just saw an in depth report by 3 doctors... they started with 90-95% regain lost weight... and the problem is the body strives to regain the weight.. they tracked and tested one lady - she had lost a lot of weight, continued dieting and exercising but due to body reset she had to lose an extra 300 calories per day [a 1.5 hour run] more than others of similar weight just to keep the weight off... I wish it were as simple as you say and it might be for 3-4 kilos but serious weight loss is not not not easy...

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On 11/23/2018 at 4:05 PM, bankruatsteve said:

A calorie is a unit of energy  There are different types of energy but a calorie is a calorie whether being consumed or expended.

Different efficiencies of engine though....

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I lost a lot of weight quickly with this following method (and it was really easy and I did not feel really hungry).

 

Nothing for breakfast

Normal sized Thai dish for lunch.. eg, fried rice, pad see ew etc.

Normal sized portion for evening meal.

 

Cut out all snacks.  No sugary drinks (only drink water, tea, coffee etc).

 

That was it.  I used moderate exercise... just gently pushbike ride for about 30 - 60 minutes a day, and gently swimming sometimes.

 

After a few days, you will find you get full on smaller portions and don't crave any snacks.  I used to eat lots of chocolate and 7 / 11 snacks.  

 

I also cut down on alcohol.  Whisky or Gin Tonic, and only 2 - 3 shots in an evening if I went out.  There are 100 calories in each shot of spirits... so don't mix it with cola!!!!  I mix with water or soda water.

 

Hope that helps.  

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On 11/23/2018 at 2:36 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

I think the most important part is that you have to be motivated to do it. Really motivated!

I have also a couple of kg too much and I like the idea about losing weight. But then again I like good food and cake and chocolate and pasta and ice-cream.

What would I gain if I lose weight? Would the girls be 50B cheaper? How much would I have to lose and how much would I have to exercise before the girls would decide something like: He is old but so handsome...

Summary for me: Not enough motivation.

Over to you, maybe you are better motivated.

I agree with what you are saying... I am also not vain and don't and didn't really care about an extra kg... or two... but after I passed 50, it was 2 kg a year... my parents dementia created depression which led to a bit more comfort food and maybe 3 kg a yr.. and I could not care less... but 20 years later, and +40 kg... and it is not impressing the babes that concerns me but the burden of carrying around 3 bowling balls... mostly around my gut... makes life less comfortable and tiring. 

 

So, keep an eye on it as it is far more difficult to lose the weight than some people make it sound... losing a couple of kgs - ok - but losing substantial weight and keeping it off, not easy. Be careful. I like the same deviant foods as you mentioned above... and still do.

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On 11/23/2018 at 5:44 PM, marcusarelus said:

One chocolate candy is a 30 minute walk.  

What size? You mean ie, a small Tops at 5Bt, or double the size at 10 Bt?

Which one is a 30 min walk?😁

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On 11/23/2018 at 7:19 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Absolutely not! I drive to 7/11 and it takes less than 5 minutes and most of the time I buy at least two chocolate bars. 😉 

How lazy can you get? No wonder you need to lose weight. Why not just walk?😁

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On 11/23/2018 at 7:19 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

Absolutely not! I drive to 7/11 and it takes less than 5 minutes and most of the time I buy at least two chocolate bars. 😉 

How lazy can you get? No wonder you need to lose weight. Why not just walk?😁

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How much do you drink? Cut out the beer, or just one a day worked for me.

 

I'm a cyclist, with 5400 km under my wheels this year all in Chiang Mai Province. I have a Samsung smart watch. It shares data with my phone via Bluetooth. I use it as a bike computer. The built-in GPS computes speed, distance, etc. but the part that's relevant to you is the health data that I get. With each bike ride, there is an estimate of calories burnt. It does that for all kinds of exercise, including walking. It monitors heart rate and quality of my sleep. You can record your weight in it, and view trend lines of all these data. You can use it to count calories, but you have to enter the data manually, so I have never bothered. There are other devices that do similar functions, e.g. Fit bit. The point being that having that expensive toy on your wrist becomes like a game of beat the numbers. There it is when you reach for the refrigerator door. Earn your treats with activity.

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Exercise is the key. Det rid of fatty and sugary foods as well. But without exercise it wont work.

It will if you get into ketosis and that state has zip to do with exercise

And relies heavily on fatty foods but less than 20 grams of carbs a day no sugar

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Easy way:

1. Stop eating all sweet products except fruits, including sweet drinks. Stop adding sugar to your meals.

2. Stop eating bread and all other flour products.

 

Never bring the products above to your home, never buy them and forget about them. Actually, it is quite easy. The result will be visible and stable until some weight. The best thing is that you will keep this diet quite long because it doesn't require too much effort.

 

Hard way:

1. Stop eating all sweet products including sweet drinks. 

2. Stop eating bread and all other flour products.

3. Eat at max 300g fruits per day. It is quite hard because you can't just stop buying them or forget about them. (Hard)

4. Running 30 minutes or walking 1 hour+ regularly. (Very hard) 

5. Do not eat after exercise until next day. (The hardest and the most effective thing).

 

With the hard way including the #5 6 packs are guaranteed quite fast 🙂.

 

Non-cardio exercises are not effective. However, it will give you good body shape when your weight become normal.

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On ‎11‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 8:15 AM, ThaidDown said:

Eat less and exercise more. It's not difficult.

 

When if for what medical problem you cannot do much excercise, as every step hurts ?

Eating no fat, no pasta, noodles, potatos, rice, drink no alcohol, no fruit drinks, no cola etc, but only coffee without sugar, … as my family doctor said: loosing weight by skipping your weekly piece of meat / fish… does not help much...

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All depends on your life style and will power.

 

If you want an easy diet , try herbal life or alike.

 

remove all sugars from your food, also no bread and down to 1 bowl of rice per day .

 

no food after 6pm, fruits or veggies ok.

 

I hate dieting so I always cheat and go with herbal life shakes.

 

1 month lost 20 kg, no excercise at all.

 

morning tea with lean ham or chicken 5 slices

 

lunch anything I want, normally eat Thai meal

 

dinner herbal life shake

 

evening some fruits

 

if super hungry have another shake or salad with no dressing .

 

as I said 20 kg in 1 month 

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3 hours ago, kenk24 said:

Just saw an in depth report by 3 doctors... they started with 90-95% regain lost weight... and the problem is the body strives to regain the weight.. they tracked and tested one lady - she had lost a lot of weight, continued dieting and exercising but due to body reset she had to lose an extra 300 calories per day [a 1.5 hour run] more than others of similar weight just to keep the weight off... I wish it were as simple as you say and it might be for 3-4 kilos but serious weight loss is not not not easy...

Although the "eat less, move more" is almost universally accepted, it's also universally observable that diets fail.  It needs some critical thinking.

I think the diet/exercise (in my own experience) is much like the 80/20 rule.  Also, if you're hypocaloric, your body is going to notice that and attempt to correct the situation, so I would say 'diets' (in the sense of restriction) and a bad move.

I found a way that at least partially overcomes this, where starting at 90Kg+ I could lose about  0.5Kg per day (not water weight), which I'm sure a lot of people will groan about as being impossible if you do the maths, but the point is I didn't diet at all, and didn't change any of my daily routine.  You have plenty of energy since the body is taking fat at will and using it.  I got this from reading white papers on mouse and rat studies, and even works on DIO/DIO and OB/OB animals (i.e. even if they're overfed or genetically predisposed to Obesity).  Two downsides; 1) very expensive for most peoples budjets. amd  2) seemed to pause working after about 10 days and would only resume if I stopped for a few weeks.

After several years of trying to work this out I think I've finally cracked it, and was about to start on a Monday, but broke an arm on the Sunday immediately before.  So, I'm not currently testing it as I have a strong belief that what not only pulls out the fat and stops you putting it back on, would also slow down bone healing and accumulating anything for new growth (eg. no good from dumbing myostatin).  If it turned out to work, I think because of the scale of the job and also because I'm a farang in Thailand and all the implications of working here, I'd probably just licence it, so don't really want to discuss the how's at the moment, especially since I can't prove that I've solved to duration issue where it fades off.  On the plus side it's fantastic for keeping blood sugar bang on normal range, and has been shown in animals that other side effects are all positive (eg.  All cancer cell lines it has been tested with it can arrest progress (*not* cure - emphasis needed there).


Bottom line, I think calorie restriction is not the way to go if you want lasting results.  If you were slim as a teenager thought then there are much less expensive ways to get back to that if you're prepared to take a slower route (eg. over a year or so).

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