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13 minutes ago, Grouse said:

BUT remaining will be massively better for our economy and will be good for the EU for many reasons

I believe you are right in that we would be good for

the EU, as we have been for some time.

I can not imagine how another tier of autocratic

expensive government would benefit the UK.

The EU has already caused too much chaos to countries

within the community, that should be warning bell.

The UK needs to unfettered from foreign influences

and someone needs to enter parliament with a sword

like Cromwell, and clear the b'stards out.

 

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3 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

I believe you are right in that we would be good for

the EU, as we have been for some time.

I can not imagine how another tier of autocratic

expensive government would benefit the UK.

The EU has already caused too much chaos to countries

within the community, that should be warning bell.

The UK needs to unfettered from foreign influences

and someone needs to enter parliament with a sword

like Cromwell, and clear the b'stards out.

 

Our parliament is no longer fit for purpose. An absolute monarchy would be better right now...

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22 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Our parliament is no longer fit for purpose. An absolute monarchy would be better right now...

This is not right Grouse, I'm tempted to agree with you,

but I imagine a military coup would eradicate the

establishment more efficiently.

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Just now, talahtnut said:

This is not right Grouse, I'm tempted to agree with you,

but I imagine a military coup would eradicate the

establishment more efficiently.

Anything would be better right now!

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You probably don't know but things have changed over the last two or three years. The EU will now be more approachable and changes could be achieved.
 
Not with Corbyn though. He is not good enough to be leader of the opposition.
 
This is not a zero sum game. Do you understand that
 
Aggressive negotiating will fail. The EU is much more interested in mutual consent and concordance.
Negotiating doesn't have to be aggressive but it does have to be assertive otherwise you end up with nothing, as has been ably demonstrated by this government.

If the country isn't able to assert itself with the backing of the mandate of a public vote behind it, there's a snowflake in hell's chance that back in the EU, tail between its legs, the country is going to start then.

Re your line about the EU being interested in mutual accordance and concordance.... that sounds suspiciously like political speak for everyone just doing what they are told and falling into line.

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3 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

This is not right Grouse, I'm tempted to agree with you,

but I imagine a military coup would eradicate the

establishment more efficiently.

Do we have enough soldiers for that? 

 

1 for every 800 citizens?

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5 minutes ago, rixalex said:

Negotiating doesn't have to be aggressive but it does have to be assertive otherwise you end up with nothing, as has been ably demonstrated by this government.

If the country isn't able to assert itself with the backing of the mandate of a public vote behind it, there's a snowflake in hell's chance that back in the EU, tail between its legs, the country is going to start then.

Re your line about the EU being interested in mutual accordance and concordance.... that sounds suspiciously like political speak for everyone just doing what they are told and falling into line.

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Seriously, you are quite wrong about that. Concurrence is the key word. I do think now is a great time to negotiate remain. Just talk turkey with them.

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2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Do we have enough soldiers for that? 

 

1 for every 800 citizens?

Dont forget Dads Army, I'd sign up for that, and I think

many would.

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18 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Dont forget Dads Army, I'd sign up for that, and I think

many would.

The officers will be pro remain and pro HoL 😉

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19 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Dont forget Dads Army, I'd sign up for that, and I think

many would.

I'd go back to the UK to sign up too.

 

If we can't show the world what FREEDOM means we might just as well go belly up.

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1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Our parliament is no longer fit for purpose. An absolute monarchy would be better right now...

that is pretty much what you have in UK,

not absolute monarchy, but informed one man's rule

 

your parliament is pretty far from being sovereign, far far

 

the monarch's council runs whatever is important - pretty much disregarding parliament

 

UK's ways of managing 60 mill people and their lands is best left outside of EU

EU is bad enough as it is, more authoritarian rule is hardly required'

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I'd go back to the UK to sign up too.

 

If we can't show the world what FREEDOM means we might just as well go belly up.

Do you realise REME is in FREEDOM.

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12 minutes ago, vogie said:

Do you realise REME is in FREEDOM.

Yes it is vogie; thanks for that.

 

I served in the REME (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers). I would go back if they needed me at a moment's notice.

 

Send a couple of warships down to Gibralter. Show the eurocrats that we mean business. Trump would back us. 

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