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2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

The western world is run by the banking system. The bankers and their cronies (Blair and Soros for two) are doing their best the stop Brexit from taking place.

 

It is not easy to stand up to the 'establishment' (even a US President was put down for challenging them), but the people of the UK did: and won.

 

Throughout the world, the people have the power, but are rarely offered the chance to make an impact. Brexit was one of those times when the government had to listen; and they don't like it, because they got an unexpected result. Now the hidden hand is concerned that we actually could leave. 

good point,but what makes you think the UK standing alone with a Labour Govt and most likely going into a recession is going change the bankers and their cronies,we will be much weaker and they know it,they are quids in already and with more to come,i dont think they (blair/soros etc) are bothered if we leave or stay,the UK and JC are hardly heavyweights

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13 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You, same as most Brexiteers, make the mistake to believe (or deliberately lie) that people argueing for a second referendum do so because they “lost”  the first referendum. But that’s (mostly) not true. Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 

 

There was a clear result leave got 1,269,500 more votes in the biggest ever electoral turnout. Remainers always seem to focus on the campaigns directly prior to the referendum, presumably because that's when they first became interested in the subject and because that's the information they used to make their decision. What they seem to neglect is the reason why we had the referendum in the first place, the rise of UKIP and eurosceptisism that caused Cameron to announce a referendum. Those who had an interest had years to formulate an opinion, which is why no one bought into the lies of Camerons project fear, our decision had been made long before the referendum was announced. 

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3 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Please, spare us the alleged curriculum vitae. Like all other posters here, your comments should be judged on the basis of their quality.

As for you not being a supporter of Leave...this is like those Americans who say I-don't-support-Trump-but...It's very clear you support leave. So spare us the pretense of impartiality.

If the Brexit referendum were to be reversed on the basis of a putsch you would have an excellent point. On the basis that Parliament ignored the referendum, you'd have a good one too. But since a 2nd referendum would be voted on the by mostly same electorate that voted on the first I just don't understand how that is undemocratic.

My cv is true - worked in over 25 countries, citizenship of 2 EU countries, PR (Permanent Residence) in 2 further countries, quaternary education. I probably pay more in tax than you earn as a salary.

 

Your cv so far is that you holidayed with a British working class mining family during the coal strike. But you still hate the working class, and you still don't understand us.

 

Brexit has been coming for 30-40 years - it has nothing to do specifically with Trump.

 

Sir Ivan Rogers, possibly the most knowledgeable Brit about EU bureaucracy, and a devout remainer, believes that  a 2nd ref is out of the question. I've posted  about this this twice in the last few weeks, so I won't repeat the link, as I assume you actually read this forum and can use google if you don't.

 

 

 

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You, same as most Brexiteers, make the mistake to believe (or deliberately lie) that people argueing for a second referendum do so because they “lost”  the first referendum. But that’s (mostly) not true. Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 
People arguing for a second referendum aren't doing so because they lost?

LOL Yeah, of course not. They would still be arguing for a second referendum had they won.


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Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 

Whichever side loses, they won't accept the result, and thanks to the precedent that people like you are cheering on being set - for referendum results to be ignored - that losing side will be within its rights to do that, to not accept it, and to demand another vote.



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23 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

I am a Brit. I support democracy, after all, the UK invented it. The UK voted to leave the EU. 

 

You are a US citizen, good luck with your president and your domestic and international problems.

 

I'm not a US citizen, and I am neither arrogant enough nor interested enough in your problems to comment on your affairs. Please afford us the the same courtesy.

 

 

Whatever my nationality may be, you are a troll. The moderators have made very clear that citing an alleged nationality as a reason to disqualify someone's comments is strictly forbidden. You probably know this but like most trolls you just can't help yourself.

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1 hour ago, My Thai Life said:

My cv is true - worked in over 25 countries, citizenship of 2 EU countries, PR (Permanent Residence) in 2 further countries, quaternary education. I probably pay more in tax than you earn as a salary.

 

Your cv so far is that you holidayed with a British working class mining family during the coal strike. But you still hate the working class, and you still don't understand us.

 

Brexit has been coming for 30-40 years - it has nothing to do specifically with Trump.

 

Sir Ivan Rogers, possibly the most knowledgeable Brit about EU bureaucracy, and a devout remainer, believes that  a 2nd ref is out of the question. I've posted  about this this twice in the last few weeks, so I won't repeat the link, as I assume you actually read this forum and can use google if you don't.

 

 

 

And if what you say about your income is true,  you probably pay more in tax that do most British workers. I guess that disqualifies them from having an opinion contrary to yours also. Such snobbishness.

 

I never said that Trump had anything to do with Brexit. Just that like Trump supporters who claim not to like Trump but... and then defend him, you claim to be impartial but I've yet to see you criticize any Brexit position.

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I'm  really amazed  that Farage's backers aren't pushing hard for a second referendum , since they made so much money during the first one , spread betting on the side ! 

I almost thought I was back at the Forex "pits ' for a while there !

 

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On 1/2/2019 at 10:23 AM, evadgib said:

 

 

Watch the video 

 

and see for how long out of the 12 minute display the wheel resembled the EU flag.

 

Then untwist your knickers.

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23 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

More trolling. This is not going to end well for you.

There is no Brexit outcome that will not end well for me personally. 

 

There are some outcomes that will be not well in the short term for democracy, and there are some outcomes that will be not well in the short term for economics.

 

Medium to long term, democracy and free trade will continue to flourish in the UK. After all we invented both.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

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Medium to long term, democracy and free trade will continue to flourish in the UK. After all we invented both.

 

UK invented democracy and free trade?? Thanks for a good laugh!

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