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BANGKOK 24 January 2019 03:43
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Hua Hin hospital finally to repay money to "fleeced" farang cancer sufferer, Damrongtham

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I use a government hospital, and would like it if an option to pay 200 baht extra for "express" service was available.
I pay 200 baht each visit as a foreigner, and there is a notice (somewhere) that some services will cost more for foreigners, but it is all up front, and I do not think I have been "fleeced" by my particular hospital, though medecine could maybe be cheaper.
Good luck!

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9 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

A lot of effort for such little money...

 

i guess it was principle....

When one has little money, a little is a lot. My standard of what constitutes a little or a lot, has no bearing on this man's financial status.

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Mercifully, I have never had to endure the kind of illness that the unfortunate gentleman at the centre of this correspondence has endured. However, I have been here considerably longer than he has and attended Hua Hin hospital on many occasions, though not for some time.

 

In the past, falangs visiting this hospital were able pay a small sum (two or three hundred baht to the best of my recollection) to jump the queue. I remember feeling rather guilty about being able to afford this privilege, but consoled my fact that my age and physical predicament justified the decision. 

 

Interestingly, the last time I was there the young lady who spoke English and usually dealt with any foreigners who arrived and kindly arranged this "fast track" facility was not in evidence and it was not offered. 

 

In numerous visits, which have included an Emergency necessitating an overnight stay, I have never been charged an admission fee, but fully expected to be charged and invariably was for every other service I received, from physician and nursing fees and medication to overnight stays.

 

It has always been my understanding that falangs, even though married to a Thai national as I am, are not covered by the government health scheme and are treated as private, fee-paying patients by government hospitals, albeit usually at lower prices than those charged at private hospitals, such as the Bangkok Hospital and Saint Paulo hospital in the town.

 

I might add that after moving from Hua Hin to Cha Am, I have been treated in exactly the same way by the local government hospital here, and billed for all treatment, services and medication. 

 

Have I and they got it wrong all these years? If so, presumably I can claim back a small fortune (though I won't, as the service has always been pretty good, the prices more than reasonable and the cash-strapped national health scheme clearly needs the money even more than I do!

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I am sure this has been a difficult journey but I admire your courage and determination and hope you get your money back and find some relief from your medical issues. I am also happy to read about a Thai marriage where both are together and no one is claiming the Thai women are only in it for the money. You are a good courageous man and a lot of us have benefited from reading about your fight for justice and we are pulling for you to recover from your health issues.  

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11 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

I am also happy to read about a Thai marriage where both are together and no one is claiming the Thai women are only in it for the money.

Not so fast. Only time will tell.

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 If he went to a goverment hospital, the fee is about 60 bath to talk to a doctor. Minimum sallary in thay is about 300bath a day.

Bin to goverment hospital several times. Never charge me more than thais. Go there fore my dental check. 1 time every year. Pay 180 bath if everything is ok. Just cleaning. Fixed a filling costed me 230 bath. Cut my self in an minor knife misshandling. 13 stitches, 340 bath and medicin included. Offcorse they stole his money.

And so what he loves goats😀and have a life.

Better than to sit on the bare stol and thalk shit about people.

Thumbs up for him, and for the rest.. thumbs up🖕

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hmmm.....isn’t fleecing farangs standard practice in the LOS(that’s why they smile?)

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13 hours ago, TheDutchEngineer said:

The ministry of public health (bangkok and Prachuap) did cover the hospital and I got no help from them

Very "telling"  to know they will always cover their owns asses.

I hope you can enjoy  the rest of your time without these VILE people doing this sort of thing yet I fear its endemic and many simply give up the fight.

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13 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

A 2 years hassle all for 20000 baht and also considering the doctors probably saved his life during his treatment.

 

He may have done more harm than good, because at Thai hospitals the word soon gets around and maybe next time won`t be so committed to saving this man`s life. Not a wise move in my opinion.

Perhaps, fora man as poor as the OP, the 20000 rebate could also be a life-saver.  If you had a serious illness and the hospital saved your life but then charged you excessively for the treatment, would you consider it OK because "they saved your life"?

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18 hours ago, CharlieH said:

hardly call a 300 baht charge being "fleeced", yes it may have been incorrect but far from "fleeced"

+ 858 baht Admission fee. yes he was fleeced.

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18 hours ago, CharlieH said:

hardly call a 300 baht charge being "fleeced", yes it may have been incorrect but far from "fleeced"

I think it may be the 858 baht that was unexplained ?

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Even if Mr Buse had medical insurance, many insurance policies, and i am targeting travel insurance in particular, exclude "terminal" medical conditions like cancer. Many exclude people who take blood thinners. They do not want to pay and the most serious conditions you have to excess to be covered or pay out of your own pocket. Maybe this was why he was charged. You need to to do your homework before buying medical/travel insurance esp the pre-existing condition clauses.

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It is fairly hard for me to relate to this post. I am not a rich man. But, I find the public hospitals here to be extremely fair, with their pricing. Even a visit to Bangkok Hospital, to see an orthopedic specialist, get some x-rays, and an exam costs me $60. At a private clinic in the US, probably $300-400. A visit to the emergency room of a hospital in the US, costs $2,000 and up. For an hour visit. In a public hospital here, that same visit is about 600 baht. They are charging so little to the Thai people, due to universal health care. And that is a very good thing for the people. They have to make up for it, to some extent with us. What is the issue with that? I am quite happy with the medical care here, and the associated costs. No complaints from me.

 

A good friend of mine got in a bad motorcycle accident some time ago. He almost lost his leg. He got his first of 11 operations at Bangkok Hospital Samui. It costs him over a million baht. They wanted to do a second procedure. They quoted him 1.4 million baht. He decided to transfer to Bangkok. He was quoted 460,000 baht for the same procedure, at a top private hospital there. The surgeon told him that he worked at a public hospital too, and could do the same operation there, for alot less money. He told him he would get him a quote. In the interim, my friend called a buddy in San Diego, who is an orthopedic surgeon. Since my friend is a retired chiropractor, who knew all the terminology, and explained what he needed, and asked for the best price. His friend called him back, and quoted him $960,000, with cash discounts! The local surgeon got back to him, and told him he could do it for 46,000 baht. He transferred, and they did all the rest of his procedures. So, 1.4 million at Bangkok Hospital, 460,000 at the other private hospital in Bangkok (I think it was Vejthani Hospital), and 46,000 at the public hospital, with an excellent surgeon. VS. 32,000,000 baht in the US. Again, no complaints from this peanut gallery.

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200 KM rides on a motorcycle couldn't have helped his prostate....unless he installed a finger massage up there while he rode.  Glad he got some compensation, though.

 

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