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1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Onside or offside. Armpit or knee offside. It's way too difficult currently.

 

The offside law states that a player is in an offside position if any of their body parts, except the hands and arms, are in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent.

 

Change it to the following which will make it easier to judge if onside or offside, and if unclear if onside or offside then rule its onside (i.e. give the advantage to the attacking team as we want to see goals):

 

a player is in an offside position if the position of the player's head, is in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the

position of the head of the second-last opponent.

 

Yeah decided by refs to protect their fellow refs and Linos, but that effort today against Villa for me was another level. Manipulating the technology to give the wanted outcome is setting a scary precedent. Firmino was onside, they changed that with editing, <deleted> madness.

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28 minutes ago, wilai said:

Chris Kamara on 'Goals on Sunday' re: Firmino's 'goal' yesterday...'this has been made up by somebody at Stockley Park who has decided they don't want this to be a goal'...'somebody has decided that and they should be outed because that is not offside'.

 

Let's hope so!

You're not helping yourself here by quoting Chris Kamara. 

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18 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

Firmino was onside, they changed that with editing, <deleted> madness.

Without VAR he was off side wasn't he? i.e. the lino had flagged him off side. So without VAR it wouldn't have stood either

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34 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

Without VAR he was off side wasn't he? i.e. the lino had flagged him off side. So without VAR it wouldn't have stood either

Agreed, and the decision was wrong. Was the perfect opportunity for VAR to prove it's worth. Unfortunately, it only served to prove it's fallibility. The biggest concern is the possible 'doctoring' of the views.

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11 hours ago, BangrakBob said:

Manipulating the technology to give the wanted outcome is setting a scary precedent.

 

10 hours ago, wilai said:

biggest concern is the possible 'doctoring' of the views.

Paranoia.

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INCIDENT: With Aston Villa 1-0 up, VAR got involved as Sadio Mane found Roberto Firmino to tap home at the far post. The assistant instantly raised his flag and VAR judged the Liverpool man to be just inches the wrong side of the line with his arm-pit millimetres ahead of the play.

DERMOT'S VERDICT: Correct call. Clubs can have no argument about the technology used.

DERMOT SAYS: The technology has said it's offside. It's as accurate as possible. Everybody signed up to the technology, everybody knows there is no latitude in offside decision. It's either offside or onside. There's no debate. The lines favour the defender in this instance so it's offside.

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Two competitive games in 24 hours (1st time ever) and just to make it interesting, in two different continents. The price of success! Wonder if JK will make both of them?

 

As for last night. Nothing special although AOC staked a claim for the weekend. Three points home to Napoli next time will see us group winners.

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22 minutes ago, wilai said:

Two competitive games in 24 hours (1st time ever)

You mean for Liverpool right?

 

It'll be no problem for Liverpool but a right pain for the fan who never misses a game.

 

Beeb:

"In April, Venezuelan club Deportivo Lara played two matches in the space of six hours - one of which was in the Copa Libertadores - and won both.

 

On the same day, Venezuelan side Zamora played two fixtures 4,000 miles apart, losing 4-0 at Deportivo La Guaira in the league and 3-2 at Brazilian side Atletico Mineiro in the Copa Libertadores.

 

Arsenal and Manchester United played on consecutive days in November 2001. The Gunners lost 4-2 to Charlton in the Premier League on 4 November and on the same day United were beaten 3-1 by Liverpool at Anfield, also in the league. On 5 November, Arsenal beat United 4-0 in the League Cup.

 

And in November 1987, striker Mark Hughes played for Wales and Bayern Munich in two countries on the same day."

 

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2 hours ago, wilai said:

Two competitive games in 24 hours (1st time ever) and just to make it interesting, in two different continents. The price of success! Wonder if JK will make both of them?

 

As for last night. Nothing special although AOC staked a claim for the weekend. Three points home to Napoli next time will see us group winners.

One match in Liverpool the other in Doha, 2 competitions, incredible really.

 

I reckon JK and most the senior team will go to Doha. Pep and mostly 23's take on the mighty Villa, any remaining seniors or squad head to Doha next day?

 

Imagine the fume when we win both then snatch the CWC and head home just in time for Boxing Day <deleted> up at Leicester!

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

One match in Liverpool the other in Doha, 2 competitions, incredible really.

In Brum mate.  You going to Doha?

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11 minutes ago, wilai said:

In Brum mate.  You going to Doha?

Oh right

 

Yeah finally Liverpool hit the Middle East for a massive match and we move to Australia 3 months too early...I did try and hang on, but not to be, headless.

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5 hours ago, BangrakBob said:

and we move to Australia 3 months too early

I remember you're from woolyback land so hope you've moved to a rugby league area and not have to endure that <deleted> aussie rules nonsense. I lived there in the pre-internet days, no English football on tv, dash down to the newsagents on saturday morning to ensure i got my British Soccer Weekly newspaper to keep up with the footie (old news by the time it was in BSW), so following league was a good standin for me and of course league is huge there.

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10 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I remember you're from woolyback land so hope you've moved to a rugby league area and not have to endure that <deleted> aussie rules nonsense. I lived there in the pre-internet days, no English football on tv, dash down to the newsagents on saturday morning to ensure i got my British Soccer Weekly newspaper to keep up with the footie (old news by the time it was in BSW), so following league was a good standin for me and of course league is huge there.

Yes I am a wool, but my parents emigrated us to Oz when I was 10, so I know the place very well. Spent most of the past 20 years in Manchester, Samui and Middle East. 

Yeah it was the same era for me, I was shocked when we first arrived, "football" was rugby league and soccer was for "poofs" I think it was ABC tv on a Monday you got highlights for 30 minutes. I did get in to league a lot as a kid, no choice really, but coming from the North and my family it was easy enough to get in to. Not arsed with it now though, meat heads charging at each other being cheered on by "deros" 😁

Club football was a great here, it was a tight community, a mix bag of expats or second third generation foreigners. I still maintain friendships here that came through football. 

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