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10 hours ago, jompa67 said:

Larger farms use to use E-Wap as a kind of air-conditioning in the barns. That's why som farm use to report a better FCR than others.

wifes farm max sow 250 max piglets 500, at any one time, hot summer outside shade temp 42/43/44.... inside farm temp front by evap pad 27/28/29 back farm temp by fan 29/30/31.... its still hot in there, some fat sow will be panting mid afternoon, but the lactating sows will still be eating 10/12kg aday, some more. for about 7 months of the year the evap pump will never stop pumping water through the evap pad, temp set @ 25.

at the moment now its cooler, farm temp will be around 25 mid day, 5am this morning it was 15, lactating sow at the mo are eating 15kg a day, some want more, why the kg on the piglet can get to 8/9/10kg in such a short space of time is the massive amounts of feed they are eating...  

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pig porn.....weaning today piglets... 80 + piglets 8 mum 6.74kg average, holding area now outside farm "walled farm" for the last few months now no vehicle access to farm, ie weaning,culling,new gilts

is your farm "registered" at the local government office? by this i mean, before building did you apply to build a pig farm @ x number of pigs and square meters building? this will be reviewed every y

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16 hours ago, sateuk said:

Good looking piglets we get to 105kg + average after 240 kgs 8 bags of feed, out of interest what does it take your pigs we use spm feed by the way thanks

when the piglet is born do you weigh them? what sort of birth weight do you average? when and how do you feed  the sow, ie daily amounts. example day 1. 2kg day 2. ? and so on.....  at what age do you wean the piglet? average kg? how long does it then take to get the sow "back in pig"? what sort of body score would you give your sows?

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4 hours ago, thoongfoned said:

when the piglet is born do you weigh them? what sort of birth weight do you average? when and how do you feed  the sow, ie daily amounts. example day 1. 2kg day 2. ? and so on.....  at what age do you wean the piglet? average kg? how long does it then take to get the sow "back in pig"? what sort of body score would you give your sows?

We wean at 28 day sometimes a bit earlier, feed the sow 5 or 6 kgs a day obviously thats not enough normally a week or 2 the sow back in heat again , our fcr is 2.3 would like to get it to 2.1 7 bags of feed keep the cost down at the moment its 3940 baht for 8 bags of food for avg weight 105 kg

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ASF confirmed in Indonesia. Headlines read.... "ASF first occurred in the country in early September, according to a new report from the Indonesian agriculture ministry to the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE). Since that time, more than 28,000 pigs have died of the disease. Almost 1.23 million pigs in 392 backyard herds are estimated to be in the affected area."

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hi guys,

Prices on pigs is going very well in our way this time. Does anyone have a prognoses or forecast for the future. It can't continue up forever. I have heard people talking about 90-100 bath to Song kran. I have no clue how much pigs exist in market at the moment and have no forecast either. Please share your best guess.

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On 1/14/2020 at 9:00 AM, jompa67 said:

hi guys,

Prices on pigs is going very well in our way this time. Does anyone have a prognoses or forecast for the future. It can't continue up forever. I have heard people talking about 90-100 bath to Song kran. I have no clue how much pigs exist in market at the moment and have no forecast either. Please share your best guess.

66 in buriram now still 60 in and around our village

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We dont raise finisher but still we have to keep some odd piglets. Last week price in PhiMai, not far away from Buriram, we got 70 bath (76 to wedding). Is Buriram in a zone where it is hard to move pigs? 60 bath is ridiculous low, now when it is so hard to find pigs.

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30 minutes ago, jompa67 said:

We dont raise finisher but still we have to keep some odd piglets. Last week price in PhiMai, not far away from Buriram, we got 70 bath (76 to wedding). Is Buriram in a zone where it is hard to move pigs? 60 bath is ridiculous low, now when it is so hard to find pigs.

its 60 baht  kg for the cull sow here, has been for a long time (6 plus months)

company still expanding in our province/around us, have been asked to build another farm many times in the last 2 months.... 2 more 200 head sow farms going up now not far from us, plus loads more finisher farms...

in the market town near us the other day, feed shop i use was busy, he says very good business at the mo..

a guy the wife knows has been left with a load of reject finishers (to fat) he is having them butchered at a "proper" place and selling the meat at 100baht a kg, where he can..

price in markro is expensive from 145/150++++

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14 hours ago, jompa67 said:

We dont raise finisher but still we have to keep some odd piglets. Last week price in PhiMai, not far away from Buriram, we got 70 bath (76 to wedding). Is Buriram in a zone where it is hard to move pigs? 60 bath is ridiculous low, now when it is so hard to find pigs.

The farms In buriram are 70 baht a kg we get from our guy that supplies our pig food about 4 baht less than the farm prices in the villages its about 10 baht less than farm prices no butcher here will give you Farm prices they will just go to next person and get, only farm's get the proper price not the little guy here anyway

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looking good......... spendin some good bahts in that set up by the looks of things....

what age/ kg (average) do they enter. age/kg (average) exit?

reason i ask is piglet from us go into next farm, cement floor only till 100kg  ish plus finish...

so 5kg  (wean) into 100kg(average finish) say 120 day. (140 ish total alive days)

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They enter nursery at 5 - 8 kg (21 - 28 days) depending on how badly we need the farrowing crate.

We don't raise any piglets by our-self. All are sold. Mostly at a size of 16 - 20 kg. Some customer want 20 - 25 kg.

At 20 kg ++, its easier to discover piglets at lower quality or other defections. Many pig raiser gambling by buying them at 7 - 8 kg.

At that size, you can not see who is good and bad. They make a few hundred bath extra per piglets but they also get higher mortality rate and piglets with slow grow.

And when they discover that they did not make so much money or even worse, loose money, They start blame the farm where piglets come from.

 

When weaning at 7 - 8 kg:

12 kg - 42 days (+2 weeks)

16 kg - 49 days (+3 weeks)

20 kg - 56 days (+4 weeks)

25 kg - 63 days (+5 weeks)

 

Add another week if weaning at 5- 6 kg.

 

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Guys, i need some information.

 

When pig raiser buying piglets (big farms). How many percent can they expect to die, get sick or other kind of problem so they need to be sold in advance.

 

I have heard of 3 - 5%.

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