Bolton Boys We Are Here

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

43 minutes ago, champers said:

Luca Connell; a Scouser; is highly rated. ROI youth international. Offer us £10 Mill and he's yours.

 

You had us interested until you said scouser.

[champers 9,776]

3 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

Is that all you could come up with? An imported paddy with only 185 minutes under his belt. You really need to concentrate on your own clubs contribution to youth and stop with the stone throwing about City

It is tough to compete with the Big 4 in the area. Over the last 30 years our record has been awful when it comes to bringing youth players through; I could count them on one hand. Hunt and Nolan were other clubs cast offs, for example.

It is not just Bolton, Burnley & Wigan have not done too well. Blackburn have, not sure what their secret is.

I would like to see City, and Chelsea, bring players through. One every season or two seems reasonable to me. By playing with quality players they would reach the same standard, in my view.

I am just watching Angus Gunn have a good game for Southampton. There must be regrets about him, and others leaving, or maybe not.

[champers 9,776]

Training ground closed yesterday - no food or drinks avaialable. Rumours doing the rounds that those staff not paid will decide not to turn up for Saturday game v Millwall. Some staff reported to be asking for cash to pay for food and petrol. The game could end up being postponed, club fined, points deducted.

The takeover looks like it may be stalling. Hey ho.

COYW

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

21 minutes ago, champers said:

Training ground closed yesterday - no food or drinks avaialable. Rumours doing the rounds that those staff not paid will decide not to turn up for Saturday game v Millwall. Some staff reported to be asking for cash to pay for food and petrol. The game could end up being postponed, club fined, points deducted.

The takeover looks like it may be stalling. Hey ho.

COYW

At times like this i think a club in difficulties should turn to their wealthier neighbours (Mancs x 2, scousers x 2) and ask for assistance (financial  or otherwise) to help get through it.

 

Whenever our neighbours ManU have needed it we've  supported them to help them survive – happened in 1902 (City officials donated money to keep ManU in business); 1930s when City helped prevent a 3rd Manchester club (Manchester Central, based at Belle Vue) from joining the League because it could have killed off the Reds; and plenty of other occasions including the WW2 ground share of Maine Road when Uwe Rosler's dad bombed Old Trafford. All true facts (apart from Uwe) and ManU say they've  always been the bigger club in Manchester 

 

 

[mrbojangles 5,560]

On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 6:57 PM, champers said:

It is tough to compete with the Big 4 in the area. Over the last 30 years our record has been awful when it comes to bringing youth players through; I could count them on one hand. Hunt and Nolan were other clubs cast offs, for example.

I just find it strange that Bolton don't do much for bringing youth through and yet you find it necessary to give City grief. 

[mrbojangles 5,560]

On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 6:57 PM, champers said:

I am just watching Angus Gunn have a good game for Southampton. There must be regrets about him, and others leaving, or maybe not.

Gunn seemed like a good prospect but can he play in the style Pep wants? If not, he wouldn't get a game and so better to move on out. Players come and go at every club. You can't regret them all

[mrbojangles 5,560]

On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 6:57 PM, champers said:

I would like to see City, and Chelsea, bring players through. One every season or two seems reasonable to me. By playing with quality players they would reach the same standard, in my view.

I'd love the same and I hope we will

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

8 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

Gunn seemed like a good prospect but can he play in the style Pep wants? If not, he wouldn't get a game and so better to move on out. Players come and go at every club. You can't regret them all

Gunn could have stayed and fought for his position like Zinchenko, who nearly went to wolves, but he chose to leave due to Ederson (no explanation  needed there) and we got a nice fee. Muric looks equally as good a prospect as Gunn.

Edited March 5, 2019 by Bredbury Blue

[mrbojangles 5,560]

5 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Gunn could have stayed and fought for his position like Zinchenko, who nearly went to wolves, but he chose to leave due to Ederson (no explanation  needed there) and we got a nice fee. Muric looks equally as good a prospect as Gunn.

Not just Ederson coming. With Bravo still there he was effectively 3rd choice. I admire players who stay to fight (like Foden) but don't blame players who want to move on. It's an individual's choice

[mrbojangles 5,560]

23 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

At times like this i think a club in difficulties should turn to their wealthier neighbours (Mancs x 2, scousers x 2) and ask for assistance (financial  or otherwise) to help get through it.

Got to disagree there BB. IMO it's not the responsibility of other clubs to assist. It's for the people of Bolton to sort out. Either the council can help out (Rochdale council did) or the citizens of the republic of Bolton should either donate or go through the turn styles. If the locals don't feel a need for a club there why should anyone else? Bury have also been close to folding but found ways to raise money. 

[RickG16 1,266]

Just now, mrbojangles said:

Got to disagree there BB. IMO it's not the responsibility of other clubs to assist. It's for the people of Bolton to sort out. Either the council can help out (Rochdale council did) or the citizens of the republic of Bolton should either donate or go through the turn styles. If the locals don't feel a need for a club there why should anyone else? Bury have also been close to folding but found ways to raise money. 

Could be a way of 'cleaning' your money though. City helps Bolton out of the ****. Bolton repays City by giving them first refusal on any decent players. Probably breaks the regulations, but I expect your not too bothered about that. 

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

Got to disagree there BB. IMO it's not the responsibility of other clubs to assist. It's for the people of Bolton to sort out. Either the council can help out (Rochdale council did) or the citizens of the republic of Bolton should either donate or go through the turn styles. If the locals don't feel a need for a club there why should anyone else? Bury have also been close to folding but found ways to raise money. 

Yeah lets blame Champers and his Boltonian lot.

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

1 hour ago, RickG16 said:

Could be a way of 'cleaning' your money though. City helps Bolton out of the ****. Bolton repays City by giving them first refusal on any decent players. Probably breaks the regulations, but I expect your not too bothered about that. 

Champers already confirmed Bolton have no decent players bar one.

 

Hows that crusade going Rick? Do hope you'll be going down the Etihad with your 'FFP rules' sign before the seasons end.

[champers 9,776]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

Got to disagree there BB. IMO it's not the responsibility of other clubs to assist. It's for the people of Bolton to sort out. Either the council can help out (Rochdale council did) or the citizens of the republic of Bolton should either donate or go through the turn styles. If the locals don't feel a need for a club there why should anyone else? Bury have also been close to folding but found ways to raise money. 

I agree. The club has been close to folding before. In the mid 1980s they were on the brink and people put their hands in their pockets. They will again.

Warburtons might come back on the scene. They are not short of dosh and have always looked after former players. Freddie Hill and Wyn Davies; who both played for City too; ended up as bakers. You couldn't see international players of today doing that.

[Bredbury Blue 2,538]

8 minutes ago, champers said:

I agree. The club has been close to folding before. In the mid 1980s they were on the brink and people put their hands in their pockets. They will again.

Warburtons might come back on the scene. They are not short of dosh and have always looked after former players. Freddie Hill and Wyn Davies; who both played for City too; ended up as bakers. You couldn't see international players of today doing that.

Remember watching Freddie Hill and Wyn 'the leap' Davies, who was a favourite of mine, at City in the 70s.