webfact Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Look into my eyes! Big Joke aims to keep the criminals out of Thailand with iris technology File photo Thailand's chief of immigration has told the media that a system using iris recognition would be installed by the middle of next year. The Thai police have been looking at the latest technology from Finland and plan to have a private company install the system, reported Channel 7 news. Lt-Gen Surachate Hakparn said that the system would be faster and more efficient than other methods of inspecting arrivals. He spoke of millions of people crossing Thailand's land borders using border passes. Criminals were taking advantage of this to enter Thailand illegally and commit crime. Source: Channel 7 -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-12-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 More posturing. I imagine someone had top explain what an iris is to this guy. He's an opportunist on the make, and after shaking hands with him one should always count to see how many fingers he hasn't stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Then i presume it's on to the x-ray,well it is called operation x ray outlaw foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: Look into my eyes! Big Joke aims to keep the criminals out of Thailand with iris technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 beginning to visualise the one and only positive to ever having a glass eye! - to pop it out for the Immigration desk test!! and then... ah am outta here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Since when has there been an international database of irises, large enough to be considered as a reliable tool for spotting criminals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotMahKid Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, samjaidee said: Since when has there been an international database of irises, large enough to be considered as a reliable tool for spotting criminals? There is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Oh, this means the queues at migration will be even longer, it boggles the mind why they need almost two minutes just to process a single person. Sent from my SM-J730F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 From Finland? Never heard.. probably some startup. The passport biometric data does not have retina scans so what would they even be comparing against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Sharjah (in the UAE) has been using this tech since the early 2000s (or before). Oddly enough though, it wasn't being used in the other Emirates (at least not up until 2014). As mentioned, this will be pretty much useless unless it is connected to a master database. Not sure if Interpol (or anyone else) has that though. Before Thailand worries about such tech, it should do 2 things. 1) Get their own Immigration system working on the same page, following the same instructions in the same manner and having a National database available for every border crossing/point of entry. 2) Take note of which other countries (if any besides the Sharjah Emirate) are also using this tech and how well it is doing. Otherwise they are going to end up with another GT200 Bomb Detector scandal (which was made worse by people defending the thing even after it was shown to be a total fraud). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 This technology could be used to authenticate Thai citizens. It could also be used for 1 year visa holders, especially retirees and foreigners married to Thais. When a person gets a 1 year visa, they usually need to report to immigration every 90 days, or leave the country and re-enter. Upon issuing the visa, or extension, take an iris scan. If the person leaves, enters or re-enters they use the iris scan lane, insert passport into machine, take iris scan, print receipt - done in 10 seconds, if no issues. Could also be used for 90 reports. It would save lots of time for millions of travelers and free-up lots IO staff for other activities. Just got to make sure the system is robust, reliable, and safe to eliminate down time. It is a very smart idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Kerryd said: Otherwise they are going to end up with another GT200 Bomb Detector scandal (which was made worse by people defending the thing even after it was shown to be a total fraud). Don’t forget that the generals made money on the GT200....and that's all that matters. They knew beforehand the GT200 was bogus, but bought the product anyway to earn their ‘commissions’. Even when the scandal resurfaced later, none of the generals were held responsible. They just hung sole blame on the scapegoat manager of AVIA Satcom Co. who they convicted of fraud. Fraud that should have been shared by all involved. So this is a relatively standard and fairly simple scam that's proven to work…who can say they won’t do it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mduras01 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The database is one I am sure they will create. One has to start somewhere. Scan the irises of deportees in process and criminals and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Rejecting people with tattoos could be a low cost alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 What a showboating grandstander....try and end the lawlessness amongst your fellow thais first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, Banana7 said: This technology could be used to authenticate Thai citizens. It could also be used for 1 year visa holders, especially retirees and foreigners married to Thais. When a person gets a 1 year visa, they usually need to report to immigration every 90 days, or leave the country and re-enter. Upon issuing the visa, or extension, take an iris scan. If the person leaves, enters or re-enters they use the iris scan lane, insert passport into machine, take iris scan, print receipt - done in 10 seconds, if no issues. Could also be used for 90 reports. It would save lots of time for millions of travelers and free-up lots IO staff for other activities. Just got to make sure the system is robust, reliable, and safe to eliminate down time. It is a very smart idea! Why not just chip us all and have done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkleGoooose Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Contact lenses. Technology. Bypassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Krataiboy said: Why not just chip us all and have done with it. Because chips can be removed and re-inserted. Tough to remove an eye ball and transplant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, UnkleGoooose said: Contact lenses. Technology. Bypassed. Iris scan with a facial recognition scan is very difficult to bypass, all cross referenced to your passport photo and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Banana7 said: Because chips can be removed and re-inserted. Tough to remove an eye ball and transplant it. I was being ironical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 hours ago, webfact said: He spoke of millions of people crossing Thailand's land borders using border passes. Criminals were taking advantage of this to enter Thailand illegally and commit crime. Ah, if only there were no pesky foreigners, there would be no crime in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Finger prints are used by USA and numerous other countries as bio-metric scans for immigration, criminal and other purposes. Unfortunately, the initial scan of 10 fingers takes about 2 - 5 minutes. Subsequent scans are faster and may require only a 1 finger or partial hand scan. USA has a database of billion+ people, including all foreigners who have visited or passed through USA in the last 10+ years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Cock and ball recognition may also be useful for BJ ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 They use it in Australia, and it is very efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkeen08 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Banana7 said: Because chips can be removed and re-inserted. Tough to remove an eye ball and transplant it. They all have failsafes from being removed. Any attempt causes an immediate self distruct explosion large enough to remove the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Will never see the light of day and if by some freak chance it does, it will be disbanded. They literally can’t do anything. They can’t even handle paper correctly without putting copies of passports on the back of forms they give to new people. To say they are incompetent beyond belief is a kind understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Vacuum said: Rejecting people with tattoos could be a low cost alternative. My 93 yr old sea dog grandad will be buggered then as he's got a tattoo of a mermaid on his fore arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 If you want to get into Thailand it's 500b and a wee trip over the Mekong to nong khai.millions of tax payers money going down the drain as usual.give it a few days and they will all be out of order and everyone clueless how to maintain them.they can't even maintain a tsunami warning siren let alone this sort of technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Thailand the new Retina Iris Scan Database Center of the World.........???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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