stroll Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I have been thinking about becoming a monk for three months, much as the young Thai men do, for some time. I witnessed a friend receiving the initial ordination, and my Thai family would welcome me to follow. This is not a hoax! My question is, has anybody done this or has information about it? Keeping in mind that it is not a meditation course I am looking for, and unfortunately my Thai abilities are basic. Is there a wat welcoming farangs near Bangkok, or in Changwat Nan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Try this site monk? There is a section in there about Buddhism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeDanan Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Hi Stroll, Go for it! and keep us informed!!! The first Western Abbot in Thailand is Ajahn Sumedho an American born 1934. In 1974 Wat Pah Nanachat was founded, dedicated to training Western Monks. Have a Happy… DeDanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Wat Yannawa had some farang monks. It is a big temple in the center of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Wat Yannawa had some farang monks. It is a big temple in the center of town. You thinking about taking the plunge Doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Wat Yannawa had some farang monks. It is a big temple in the center of town. You thinking about taking the plunge Doc? As soon as they liberalize the rules Bronco, I'm in. Prah Maha Pat The things I need changed are the no chick rules. no booze rules, and the eating rules. Not too much to ask in my humble opinion Bronc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 My Missus wants me to do it for a week, but a week without VB????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe' Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I have been thinking about becoming a monk for three months, much as the young Thai men do, for some time. I witnessed a friend receiving the initial ordination, and my Thai family would welcome me to follow.This is not a hoax! My question is, has anybody done this or has information about it? Keeping in mind that it is not a meditation course I am looking for, and unfortunately my Thai abilities are basic. Is there a wat welcoming farangs near Bangkok, or in Changwat Nan? stroll, It's interesting that you mention this. My wife and I were talking with one of the Thai monks here in San Diego. He was suggesting that becoming a monk for a few months would really expidite the process of getting Thai citizenship for such a farang. I will do more research. I think it's a very nice idea. As a kid I used to spend summers on retreats with Fransiscan monks in upstate New York. I almost became a priest but really discovered girls just before I was schedualed to go into the monastary. They've been nothing but trouble ever since Seriously though. It couldn't hurt and might make a nice impression on others. There's something to be said for practicing some austerities even if for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 My Missus wants me to do it for a week, but a week without VB????? Have a super go in the week leading up to ordination, then you have a whole week to recuperate Then back into it the week following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 will you be selling "thai visa" monks robes to all the members who join the monkhood.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted May 23, 2004 Author Share Posted May 23, 2004 There is no market for this, it is not the right attire to wear when chasing girls in Patpong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe' Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I hope its not out of line to ask if there can be even a little respect for the Thai monks. The booze the broads and other things are easy and I have a feeling most of us here have had our share. Going against the flow can get tough and lonely but does build character. I think three months spent as a monk could be a good thing no matter what you plan to do with the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I even know the Wat she wants me to go into, lots of the males in family have been through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted May 23, 2004 Author Share Posted May 23, 2004 Tell us more, Bronco! Assuming it is a wat you are talking about, not some joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 no joke, my missus has been talking about doing it for some time now. It is a Wat in KhonKaen, well about 6k out towards Banpaed. I went there for a nephews time with monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingy_ Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 you won't be the first white boy to be a monk in thailand, there are other before you, i say go for it, wash all the bad deed you done in the past, you will feel like a new man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I'd love to take the plunge too. If only I could afford to take 3 month off work! Interesting point though springs to mind - would one need a work permit. I know there are visa classes for this, but what if you are already here as a retiree perhaps (not me - too young - but interested anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padkapow Guy Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I'd love to take the plunge too. If only I could afford to take 3 month off work! Interesting point though springs to mind - would one need a work permit. I know there are visa classes for this, but what if you are already here as a retiree perhaps (not me - too young - but interested anyway). My wife wants me to do it also. Something about holding on to robe strings to get to heaven. I don't think you have to do it for 3 months, she told me you can do it for a couple of days or 1 week that it is up to you. I would have to do it on my vaction so the most I would be able to do it for is 3 weeks. Maybe on my next trip I will do it. If anyone knows if the 1 week deal is wrong please let me know. I think it is right because my nephew did it last year for 1 week. I probably will look like a pumpkin, but it would be a small price to pay for the wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Yeah, don't forget to waer a hat or slap on some sun-block on that scalp - mines never seen the sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 You can forget about all those diet plans for sure. After three months having to beg for your food, you'll fit in those Speedos just fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I'd love to take the plunge too. If only I could afford to take 3 month off work! Interesting point though springs to mind - would one need a work permit. I know there are visa classes for this, but what if you are already here as a retiree perhaps (not me - too young - but interested anyway). My wife wants me to do it also. Something about holding on to robe strings to get to heaven. I don't think you have to do it for 3 months, she told me you can do it for a couple of days or 1 week that it is up to you. I would have to do it on my vaction so the most I would be able to do it for is 3 weeks. Maybe on my next trip I will do it. If anyone knows if the 1 week deal is wrong please let me know. I think it is right because my nephew did it last year for 1 week. I probably will look like a pumpkin, but it would be a small price to pay for the wife. One week is OK, you can even do a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up2U Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 And don't go to a farang-oriented Wat, just a normal run-of-the-mill local. Then you will learn properly the outlook of the other novices and monks (and impove your Thai language skills?). Friend of mine has done the wet-season stint (farang). Changed him completely. Also where my wife comes from - really out in the sticks, there is a full time farang monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Thanx for all your answers. Yes, one can do it for a very short time only, but I want it to be more than a formality, learning about an aspect of Thai culture, Buddhism and myself, maybe. It all sounds like I am not the only one considering it, on a practical note, do you know wats which could be suitable for people with limited Thai language abilities? Any details, adresses or other useful bits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinN Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 My wife don't want me to do it,and I wouldn't do it anyway. But with the begging for food,eating only one time a day and that before noon,no smoking and no sex,it sure ain't my cup of tea. Coarse I am no expert but I don't member anywhere that BUDA said anything about going to heaven in his teachings, just about reaching nervana thru meditation. and the BUDA meditation is really OK but I am unable to do it as my brain will not slow down enough and I am always aware of my surroundings. And what has BUDAISM got to do with Thai customs,, The Lord BUDA was an indian. Maybe I don't smoke enough GANGI or opium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 My wife don't want me to do it,and I wouldn't do it anyway. But with the begging for food,eating only one time a day and that before noon,no smoking and no pussy,it sure ain't my cup of tea. Coarse I am no expert but I don't member anywhere that BUDA said anything about going to heaven in his teachings, just about reaching nervana thru meditation. and the BUDA meditation is really OK but I am unable to do it as my brain will not slow down enough and I am always aware of my surroundings. And what has BUDAISM got to do with Thai customs,, The Lord BUDA was an indian. Maybe I don't smoke enough GANGI or opium. sounds to me like someone is smoking to much of something. I think you are loosing it, old man. I mean, not only any manners you might have had when you could still remember what you said 5 minutes ago, but also your ability to spell. BUDA is not one of these herbs that hippies smoke. If you mean BUPA, it is a private health insurance.To get their details try another website... If you mean Buddha, which would be related to this topic, ask your Thai wife of colonel rank working for the Thai government, to give you a quick run done what Buddha and Buddhism are and why folks living in Thailand might be interested to learn something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Where did this no smoking thing come from? I have seen plenty of monks and 2 Abbots I know smoking (tobacco). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Kevin, as a freind of Bill W Did you ever meet him , or was it before your time. Well done you, it must be very difficult living in LOS (I assume you live here)and not having a drink, wish I could do it As for being a short time Monk I am seriously considerng it, and the posts on this forum are mainly productive and have made me think that I could do it. Keep me off booze for a week or a month anyway, and that would be a good thing according to the doctor at my local hospital Thanks for posting everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchao Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 I've seen monks smoking as well, though I don't think anyone should be in doubt that monks really shouldn't (take intoxicating addicting substances or even succumb to anything that merely pleases the senses). Monks are supposed to be free from desire, especially physical desire. Smoking has no place in that. Oh yes, about your visa: Being a monk is an accepted valid reason for visa extention. I don't know the details but I suppose having a non-immigrant visa and going to the immigration office together with the abbot and/or with a statement from the abbot should do the trick. Not sure if you could do the same on a tourist visa or even transit stay. To be sure, just get the Non Immigrant visa. It's valid for 3 months anyway and easy to get. Cheers, Chanchao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Do you mean the 60 days tourist visa? I haven't heard of an easy to get 3 months non immigrant visa? I know of an English speaking farang temple dweller (he is not a monk)who got a non immigrant education visa on the grounds of explaining/translating for visiting tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchao Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 > Do you mean the 60 days tourist visa? No, I mean exactly what I said: a 90 day non-immigrant visa. Category 'O' (Other) comes to mind as the one to get. > I haven't heard of an easy to get 3 months non immigrant visa? Easy as apple pie.. If you go to your friendly Thai consulate or embassy and say 'I will become a monk (or do meditation, or study, etc.) at so-and-so temple' then you will get a 90 day non-immigrant visa. If you know more details then provide them (letter of invitation, etc.) but I don't think this would even be required. However if you want it to be a double (or even triple!) entry visa then I'd say the more supporting paper you can provide the better it is. Non immigrant O you can get for all kinds of reasons. Like studying something. Note that studying absolutely anything is fine. If you can show a letter that you will travel to Thailand to study dung beetles at some univeristy or institute then that's just dandy. Cheers, Chanchao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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