webfact Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Toxic fumes in engine room of boat restaurant kill 2 By Theerawat Thongma, Dethawee Theewarangkool The Nation Two workers died while three became seriously ill after allegedly inhaling toxic fumes as they cleaned a boat restaurant’s engine room on Sunday. The vessel was anchored at a pier off Chon Buri province. Upon learning about the incident at 11.30am, Muang Pattaya precinct superintendent Pol Colonel Apichai Krobphetch led a rescue team to help the five workers who had reportedly passed out while cleaning the engine room of the Nava Chakkapat. It is believed they succumbed to toxic fumes, as the ventilation system had not been turned on. Upon arrival, the officials found one worker dead at the scene, and another succumbed while being rushed to hospital, police said. The names of the victims were not released as of press time. Police are investigating the incident to determine the cause of death before they proceed with further legal action. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30360077 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-12-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Sadly they were likely naively ignorant to the risks of enclosed space entry.... The owners of the boat failed to protect its workers welfare and poor innocent workers died as a result - something which happens all too often in developing an unregulated countries.... reading news such as this so regularly is tragic in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Sadly they were likely naively ignorant to the risks of enclosed space entry.... Yes it is actually a complex matter where H&S is concerned. Nearly lost someone on a site I worked due to CO2 resting down in a tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Saddly these are the, ''expendable crew members'' , as in the old Star Trek's when Jim and Spock beamed down, with the'' 3rd guy ''..we all knew his fate...Taking one for the team we call it now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 "... succumbed to toxic fumes, as the ventilation system had not been turned on." anything to save a baht. Never crossed boss mind what ventilation system is there for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel Dude Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 To <deleted> stupid!!! RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebean001 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 This problem is not unique to Thailand. No fumes or smoke should be considered safe now. In the past, maybe ok but way too many chemicals are used to make things. I had a friend in USA who simply was burning some leaves but there was other things in the pile...like a plastic bottle. Avoid all smells...of course, the stuff that does not smell will get you also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 How utterly preventable so sad rip guys and deepest condolences to the loved ones now let’s find the sob responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 "succumbed to toxic fumes" - Durian Fruit?? RIP workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 While I send my condolences to the families my concern is that if they don't give thought to their own safety...yeah you can see where I'm leading eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, ebean001 said: This problem is not unique to Thailand. No fumes or smoke should be considered safe now. In the past, maybe ok but way too many chemicals are used to make things. I had a friend in USA who simply was burning some leaves but there was other things in the pile...like a plastic bottle. Avoid all smells...of course, the stuff that does not smell will get you also. Interesting, but the burning plastic bottle fumes did what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Sadly they were likely naively ignorant to the risks of enclosed space entry.... The owners of the boat failed to protect its workers welfare and poor innocent workers died as a result - something which happens all too often in developing an unregulated countries.... reading news such as this so regularly is tragic in the extreme. And it happens in regulated and developed countries also And many times more as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thai safety standard at its best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brling Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, ebean001 said: This problem is not unique to Thailand. No fumes or smoke should be considered safe now. In the past, maybe ok but way too many chemicals are used to make things. I had a friend in USA who simply was burning some leaves but there was other things in the pile...like a plastic bottle. Avoid all smells...of course, the stuff that does not smell will get you also. Nobody on this thread has said it is unique to Thailand, but this is a Thai forum. now do you get it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I hope the bookings of Chinese tour groups are not plunging because of this "little mishap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 workers rescued on a "licenced" marine vessel with a public restaurant, not one of them trained in, or aware of the potential dangers of "confined space" or CO. Oh well, we're supposed to just smile....not bash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I wonder what happened .back in the late 70s I was working as a fitter we had 5 co workers in a stainless steel tank taking lunch one of the guys left his tig torch on with the gas’s valve open the argon displaced all the oxygen we found them at the end of the shift we lost all 5 guys maybe something similar happened no telltale smell to warn them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 What no P.P.E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The exhaust gases at a certain concentration are deadly, some have used it to commit suicide by installing a pipe from the exhaust's muffler inside the car to inhale the gas, so it is a very well known phenomenon with the exhaust gases of the engines. Almost odourless. But if the engine room of the boat was full of gas that's abnormal, even if the ventilation system had not been turned on. This is due to a lack of maintenance and probably a leak to the escape manifold, with the vibrations that happen easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Many years ago in the 1970s when I was in the RAF working deep strips on aircraft, the engine guys used to have to replace internal wing fuel tanks. The tanks were defuelled and the remainder siphoned and mopped dry, then left overnight. The next day one guy was inside the tank wearing full safety kit and a gas mask. He was secure tied to a rope with 2 guys on the outside, one with a mask to go and get him if necessary, The other to haul him out, plus there was compressed air blown into the tank all the time. We never lost a man in the 4 years I was stationed there. When my mate was the inside tank man and went home for lunch his wife made him undress outside, shower and put clean clothes on before letting him in to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Lupatria said: I hope the bookings of Chinese tour groups are not plunging because of this "little mishap" It is a sad mishap but you put a silver lining on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartmam Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Sadly they were likely naively ignorant to the risks of enclosed space entry.... The owners of the boat failed to protect its workers welfare and poor innocent workers died as a result - something which happens all too often in developing an unregulated countries.... reading news such as this so regularly is tragic in the extreme. Criminal negligence at least. RAMS should be minimum requirement but never is in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie11950 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Fumes from PVC being burnt, can kill you in one minute. A lot quicker than from asfixiation. So please keep clear of burning rubbish as it can contain PVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1964 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 This happens in building too in Thailand. The building managers turn off the ventilation and ac to save money. Cleaners often have to use dangerous chemicals during these times and when this issue is raised. If your the contractors manager you run the risk of losing the contact. Many contractors will then stop their objection rather then protect their employees. I've experienced this first hand and stopped work. Protect Life before profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grusa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 A couple of years ago I had a problem with a cracked water pipe at my townhouse. Basically and to cut a long story short, it did not leak all the time, only when the pump ran. So, the pipes run in a vertical tunnel from ground level to third floor, the only access is a largish panel in the second floor shower room, and the water is leakimg through the kitchen ceiling. Having eventually located the problem, the only solution was to replace some pipework in the vertical tunnel.......but no way could I fit, even though I am only 70kg. A Thai technical teacher, who does "homers" as a sideline, was found and agreed to do the job. But, no way would he climb into that tunnel without a fan running at full speed and pointing directly at the opening! Quite unnecessary, as it was open top and bottom, no gasses could possibly accumulate....but at least it shows some ARE aware and mindful of the potential dangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 A tragedy like this could have easily been prevented. Just shows Thailand is still a 3rd world country when it comes to safety procedures. But will they learn ? Mai pen rai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Lupatria said: I hope the bookings of Chinese tour groups are not plunging because of this "little mishap" An insincere post at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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