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10 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I don’t think there will be a referendum. May, the Brexit accomplice, will wait until the last minute to force parliament into a choice between a no deal Brexit and her deal Brexit. As prime minister, it would have been her job to declare the manipulated vote that happened two years ago void and restore democracy by making the manipulators face consequence for their actions. Instead, she is acting as an accomplice for the Brexit gangsters and betraying the people who are were lied to. 

Well, I have read some absolute rubbish on here about Brexit over the last couple of years, but your post beats them all.  Declare the referendum vote VOID?  Restore democracy by doing so?  Make the manipulators face the consequences of their action?  How exactly, by Jailing them?   Accomplice to the Brexit gangsters?  Betraying the people who were lied to?   

 

What on earth are you drinking?   

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Doomed if do, doomed if  don't.

And after so much bs and more bs what do the more recently made aware people want? 

Not to be asked it seems.

Mushroom farm !

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, vinny41 said:

 

If thats the case why not ask people every 5 years the question on EU membership Yes / No

To which point do you respond?

 

I responded to your idea of firing all MPs and getting them to stand as independents on a leave or Remain ticket.

 

Concerning referendums, in the U.K. Referendums are automatically advisory unless the act says otherwise. Using a referendum to ask an opinion is a cop out generally. The only time a referendum IS acceptable is to ratify a decision already taken by parliament or decline to do so.

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3 hours ago, vogie said:

But you miss the point, you say should never, but it was agreed by Parliament to have one, they passed a bill to allow the British electorate to have a vote whether to leave or remain in the EU. As we all know now the British public voted to leave. It was also promised to the British public that whatever the result was it would be enacted on, not we will think about what you said and remain all the same, but thanks for turning up and wasting 2 hours of your valuable time, time that could have been put to better use like washing our whippets or getting the thumb marks off our flat caps where we have doffed them to our superiors.

But I've said it once and I'll say it again, some people on here are so selfish, brexit is all about them.

At this time we should stick to facts

 

The act passed by parliament did not make the result compulsory

 

Cameron had a decent majority at the time and he committed the CON government to deliver the result. He presumably assumed that even with a few dissenters in his party he was safe to say so.

 

May's disastrous GE means parliament gets to decide with no clear CON majority.

 

FACTS

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42 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

Well, I have read some absolute rubbish on here about Brexit over the last couple of years, but your post beats them all.  Declare the referendum vote VOID?  Restore democracy by doing so?  Make the manipulators face the consequences of their action?  How exactly, by Jailing them?   Accomplice to the Brexit gangsters?  Betraying the people who were lied to?   

 

What on earth are you drinking?   

Red bus anyone? Or do we need to go into the details? Bunch of liars. 

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Independent Live:
 
Interesting moment in the Chamber just now - the chancellor Philip Hammond told his opposite number John McDonnell to vote for the Brexit deal on the table at the moment.
 
But the Commons Speaker John Bercow interrupted: "It's quite difficult to vote for something if there isn't a vote."

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49 minutes ago, Grouse said:

To which point do you respond?

 

I responded to your idea of firing all MPs and getting them to stand as independents on a leave or Remain ticket.

 

Concerning referendums, in the U.K. Referendums are automatically advisory unless the act says otherwise. Using a referendum to ask an opinion is a cop out generally. The only time a referendum IS acceptable is to ratify a decision already taken by parliament or decline to do so.

never ask a question that you don't know the answer 

plonker

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2 hours ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

Well, I have read some absolute rubbish on here about Brexit over the last couple of years, but your post beats them all.  Declare the referendum vote VOID?  Restore democracy by doing so?  Make the manipulators face the consequences of their action?  How exactly, by Jailing them?   Accomplice to the Brexit gangsters?  Betraying the people who were lied to?   

 

What on earth are you drinking?   

 I also have read some absolute rubbish on here about Brexit over the last couple of years, but your post is way up there with the most ill informed.

 

Here is a standard tongue in cheek contribution from the wonderful “Daily Mash”, which treats  pretentious poseurs, fools, ideologues, pseuds, etc with the same disdain and irreverence, whatever their opinions - always refreshing reading that you just sign up for - no cost.

I believe it may answer your point

"Second referendum to include ‘Are you an idiot?’

ANOTHER vote on leaving the EU should include questions designed to weed out total idiots, it has been claimed.

The Institute for Studies has been investigating how to prevent the vote being swayed by people who live in a Murdoch-fuelled fantasy world and have zero common sense, like last time.

Professor Henry Brubaker said: “The obvious question is ‘Are you an idiot?’ but most idiots think they’re geniuses so they’ll say ‘no’ even if they’re too thick to understand the concept of lying.

“It’s better to ask things like ‘Are you sick of the EU trying to destroy the British banana industry?’ or ‘Is it time the EU did something about all the potholes in the roads?’.

“Alternatively there could be very basic tests of idiocy, such as ‘Does Lord of the Rings depict an actual period of British history?’ or ‘Do you regularly eat raw chicken?’.

“If people answer ‘yes’ their ballot paper can go straight in the bin. It’s not very democratic but then neither is lying about 99.9 per cent of things to do with the EU.”

Leave voter Roy Hobbs said: “It’s typical of Remainers to call Leave voters idiots, but I voted for totally valid reasons like not wanting to be conscripted into the EU army. I’m too old to become a paratrooper at 63.”

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7 hours ago, tebee said:

But in the UK referendums are only advisory - so what is wrong with asking someone twice ?

 

 

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

To which point do you respond?

 

I responded to your idea of firing all MPs and getting them to stand as independents on a leave or Remain ticket.

 

Concerning referendums, in the U.K. Referendums are automatically advisory unless the act says otherwise. Using a referendum to ask an opinion is a cop out generally. The only time a referendum IS acceptable is to ratify a decision already taken by parliament or decline to do so.

UK Referendums are automatically advisory at the moment although i suspect that may change in the future so we could have a EU membership referendum every 5 or 10 years

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1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

 

UK Referendums are automatically advisory at the moment although i suspect that may change in the future so we could have a EU membership referendum every 5 or 10 years

A company makes investment based often on long term planning.  The fact that a referendum could change the factors that the investment is based on would depress economic activity since if they chose to invest they would always have to hedge their bets.   Having a referendum every 5 to 10 years is probably worse than just choosing in or out with regards to the EU and investing the time and effort in making either choice work to the best of the UK's ability.

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Adjective: reicheltic – “The British government took a reicheltic approach to the Brexit negotiations, eager as they were not to lose face in front of 17.4 million people who had voted for it to happen.

 

 

https://thepinprick.com/2018/07/29/franzs-failure-the-man-who-fell-out-of-the-sky-and-the-lessons-to-be-learned/

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