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Thailand: Islamic Leader to Increase Age for Muslims to Marry

Mariyam Ahmad 
Pattani, Thailand

 

Thailand’s top Muslim leader is expected to raise the minimum age of marriage without parental consent from 15 to 17 – effective Friday – following an international outcry over the wedding of an 11-year-old girl in June, officials said Wednesday.

 

Wisoot Binlatah, director of the southern office of the Sheikhul Islam, the body that oversees Islamic matters in predominantly Buddhist Thailand, said its top leader, Aziz Phitakkumpon, had endorsed the Islamic Committee of Thailand’s call to increase the minimum age for Muslims to marry.

 

“Sheikhul Islam signed the Regulations of the Central Islamic Council of Thailand regarding person(s) under the age of 17 in 2018 and officials will announce nationwide at every mosque to all religious leaders to acknowledge and put in use effective Dec. 14,” Wisoot told BenarNews.

 

Full story: https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/thai/marriage-change-12122018164803.html

 

-- Benar News 2018-12-13

 

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The age difference is the real disgusting issue here ...some how they feel  its ok for a 50 year old muslim man to marry a 17 year old muslim child, but not a 15 year old child....even more disgusting is the fact the leaders feel the new law changes this Sad practice of child brides....enablers all of them ...period

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The first line states "Without Parental Consent" so it is still allowed with the approval of the parents. :sick:

How about stopping the appalling practice of arranged marriages while they are at it....:sad:

It is all just window dressing by neanderthal leaders trapped in the beliefs of the 1400's.

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"Thailand’s top Muslim leader is expected to raise the minimum age of marriage without parental consent from 15 to 17 – effective Friday – following an international outcry over the wedding of an 11-year-old girl in June, officials said Wednesday."

 

As I read this..... they are raising the age to marry... "WITHOUT PARENTIAL CONSENT from 15 to 17..... BUT... WITH 'Parential Concent' isnt mentioned............... Am I missing something?????

 

Soooo, it sounds like that 50 year old guy can still buy the parents consent and then marry the 11 year old girl..........

According this change to the 'muslim' (intentionally not capitalized) law now with 'Parential Consent' the young girls can still be 'bought' from the parents......

 

And those people want/plan to rule the whole world someday in the future.......... PITY your 'great-grand children'........

Edited to add:    And best of all let's allow the 'poor girls' to have a voice (under law) to legally refuse or consent.... THEIR CONSENT SHOULD BE 'FOREMOST'........

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2 hours ago, mok199 said:

The age difference is the real disgusting issue here ...some how they feel  its ok for a 50 year old muslim man to marry a 17 year old muslim child, but not a 15 year old child....even more disgusting is the fact the leaders feel the new law changes this Sad practice of child brides....enablers all of them ...period

Really..

 

You apply this yardstick to 65 year old Caucasian males marrying 18 year old Thai's?

 

I bet you don't.

 

Good start for the Muslim cleric.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Benroon said:

Whilst I understand and agree with the point you are making - its possible that the Caucasian will treat his young spouse well whereas his counterpart will more than likely treat her like <deleted> !

 

I worked for a Kuwaiti bank for several years and got to learn that females are utterly worthless in strict muslim circles (not so much those who adapt to western living). They had a saying for sex which went - Men for pleasure, Women for babies !

 

One guy I worked with was in a foul mood for months which wasn't like him and no-one knew why - we eventually found out it was because his wife had given birth to a daughter

Long ago I read that the Afghans have a saying "For duty a woman, for pleasure a boy, for undiluted bliss a goat or an over-ripe melon" Maybe also with a pinch of salt but not sure. 

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1 hour ago, Odysseus123 said:

Really..

 

You apply this yardstick to 65 year old Caucasian males marrying 18 year old Thai's?

 

I bet you don't.

 

Good start for the Muslim cleric.

 

 

Wow ,asked the question, then answered it ''all by yourself''...I hope you don't do that in public ''out loud''....have a good one

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3 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

The first line states "Without Parental Consent" so it is still allowed with the approval of the parents. :sick:

How about stopping the appalling practice of arranged marriages while they are at it....:sad:

It is all just window dressing by neanderthal leaders trapped in the beliefs of the 1400's.

I have no problem with arranged marriage, it is forced marriage that is at issue, "Without Parental & Brides Consent"

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5 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

The first line states "Without Parental Consent" so it is still allowed with the approval of the parents. :sick:

How about stopping the appalling practice of arranged marriages while they are at it....:sad:

It is all just window dressing by neanderthal leaders trapped in the beliefs of the 1400's.

Well they are a Special Breed, making their own laws ,don't adhere to western laws just read the Quran, one will be almost scared to death.

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5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So if a 9-year old agrees, you're OK with that.

No the discussion has already moved on from the age limit where as far as know everybody is in agreement, what I was replying to was the issue was arranged marriage and I was trying to point out there is a difference between arranged and forced marriages.

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11 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s top Muslim leader is expected to raise the minimum age of marriage without parental consent from 15 to 17 – effective Friday – following an international outcry over the wedding of an 11-year-old girl in June, officials said Wednesday.

Thai government is missing the point.  A 11 year old girl was allowed to marry a grown man.  That's pedophilia.  Pray tell, but how does raising the minimum age of marriage without parental consent from 15 to 17 stop pedophiles from marrying adolescent children? 
From the article: "The endorsement will allow for younger Muslims [children] to marry if they have parental or court approval, Wisoot said."

But for whatever reason, pedophiles are still legally allowed to marry children base on their religious preference.   Does this legislation stop that?  If mummy and daddy or a 'court' are complicit in trafficking their children to pedophiles, then it's legally "Ok?" 
No!  It's not Ok.  It's amoral, unconscionable, and utterly disgusting.

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14 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

The first line states "Without Parental Consent" so it is still allowed with the approval of the parents. :sick:

How about stopping the appalling practice of arranged marriages while they are at it....:sad:

It is all just window dressing by neanderthal leaders trapped in the beliefs of the 1400's.

I argree with your sentiments. But neanderthals are 50,000 BC. And the time of the prophet and his new religion was around 700 AD. 

And the practice of selling your child has been around for eons.

The "west" is not perfect in many ways, but we became more enlightened after the middle ages, the start of the reformation times.

Islam is still stuck in the 7th century.

Which is strange because there was a time they lead the world in sciences such as mathmatics, architecture, astronomy and education.

They had created extensive trade routes. Somewhere, their beliefs have retrograded and the new age barbarism has taken hold again. IMO

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Islamic council bans marriage of children under 17

By KORNRAWEE PANYASUPPAKUN 
THE NATION

 

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THAILAND’S ISLAMIC council has – for the first time in history – issued a ban on child marriage nationwide. This followed public anger sparked by the marriage earlier this year of an 11-year-old child to a man four times her age.

 

The Central Islamic Council of Thailand (CICOT)’s new regulation bans children under the age of 17 from marriage. The new regulation would be announced to all mosques on today, Wisut Binlateh, director of the coordination centre for the Sheikhul Islam Office and a senior member of the Islamic Council, told the online Benar News. Wisut also said that the Sheikhul Islam of Thailand Aziz Phitakkumpon, who also chairs CICOT, had given his approval for the new regulation in late November.

 

Panadda Isho, legal specialist at the Southern Border Provinces Administrative Centre (SBPAC), also told Benar News that SBPAC would translate the new regulation into Bahasa Melayu and publicise the information through seminars.

 

The new regulation ensures local mosques cannot grant permission for marriages involving anyone aged under 17 unless an Islamic court gives permission or the parents sign a document approving the marriage at the provincial Islamic committee office or at the local police station, Panadda told Benar.

 

A special sub-committee was also set up to consider marriages involving children younger than 17, and give the green light if the marriage benefits the spouses. One of the three committee members must be a woman with knowledge of Islamic laws and she must be in charge of questioning and interviewing the girl. 

 

The historic move ends a widespread practice in the southern Muslim-majority provinces where girls were married off by poor parents with the permission of the local mosque once the girl had started menstruating. 

 

In the southern provinces of Pattani, Yala, Narathiwat and Satun, Islamic law were used in place of the Civil Code for family matters and inheritance. The law does not specify the minimum age for marriage unlike the Civil Code, applied elsewhere in the Kingdom, which has set the minimum age at 17. The loophole allowed many Malaysian men to take much younger girls as wives from Thailand, and local imams benefited monetarily from the loopholes, activist Sanphasit Koompraphant previously told The Nation. 

 

National Human Rights Commissioner Angkhana Neelapai-jit, meanwhile, said the Islamic Council’s move was not enough. Without penalties set for violators, the regulation is more like “asking for cooperation,” she told The Nation. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30360358

 
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This is disgusting.  Mohammed was the perfect man and role model.  Whatever he did is permissible to all Muslims.  And since he married a six year old and had sex with her when she was 9 (and he was 53), all Muslim males should be allowed to do so.  This is the law of Allah which is higher than the law of man.  Why are these so called religious leaders going against Allah's law and kowtowing to the kafir?

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17 minutes ago, Oxx said:

This is disgusting.  Mohammed was the perfect man and role model.  Whatever he did is permissible to all Muslims.  And since he married a six year old and had sex with her when she was 9 (and he was 53), all Muslim males should be allowed to do so.  This is the law of Allah which is higher than the law of man.  Why are these so called religious leaders going against Allah's law and kowtowing to the kafir?

more imbecilic comments please.

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

Islamic council bans marriage of children under 17

By KORNRAWEE PANYASUPPAKUN 
THE NATION

 

f7b5cb2278f522d6c1aad7a388129f95.jpeg

File photo

 

THAILAND’S ISLAMIC council has – for the first time in history – issued a ban on child marriage nationwide. This followed public anger sparked by the marriage earlier this year of an 11-year-old child to a man four times her age.

 

The Central Islamic Council of Thailand (CICOT)’s new regulation bans children under the age of 17 from marriage. The new regulation would be announced to all mosques on today, Wisut Binlateh, director of the coordination centre for the Sheikhul Islam Office and a senior member of the Islamic Council, told the online Benar News. Wisut also said that the Sheikhul Islam of Thailand Aziz Phitakkumpon, who also chairs CICOT, had given his approval for the new regulation in late November.

 

Panadda Isho, legal specialist at the Southern Border Provinces Administrative Centre (SBPAC), also told Benar News that SBPAC would translate the new regulation into Bahasa Melayu and publicise the information through seminars.

 

The new regulation ensures local mosques cannot grant permission for marriages involving anyone aged under 17 unless an Islamic court gives permission or the parents sign a document approving the marriage at the provincial Islamic committee office or at the local police station, Panadda told Benar.

 

A special sub-committee was also set up to consider marriages involving children younger than 17, and give the green light if the marriage benefits the spouses. One of the three committee members must be a woman with knowledge of Islamic laws and she must be in charge of questioning and interviewing the girl. 

 

The historic move ends a widespread practice in the southern Muslim-majority provinces where girls were married off by poor parents with the permission of the local mosque once the girl had started menstruating. 

 

In the southern provinces of Pattani, Yala, Narathiwat and Satun, Islamic law were used in place of the Civil Code for family matters and inheritance. The law does not specify the minimum age for marriage unlike the Civil Code, applied elsewhere in the Kingdom, which has set the minimum age at 17. The loophole allowed many Malaysian men to take much younger girls as wives from Thailand, and local imams benefited monetarily from the loopholes, activist Sanphasit Koompraphant previously told The Nation. 

 

National Human Rights Commissioner Angkhana Neelapai-jit, meanwhile, said the Islamic Council’s move was not enough. Without penalties set for violators, the regulation is more like “asking for cooperation,” she told The Nation. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30360358

 
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What is the legal age for a civilian marriage in Thailand.

If that happens to be, say, 16 years, that well meant, I hope, decision is not according to the law of the land, which ought to prevail.

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28 minutes ago, AGLV0121 said:

Seems like all naysayers or haters gathered here.

Muslims are able of good decisions too, you know, and this one seems to have been carefully thought of.

Kudos

 But it still leaves many loopholes for marriage under 17, so what's the point of this 'new' law?

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41 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 IS the initial statement incorrect? Can you please share why?

i can.

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Mohammed was the perfect man and role model.

says who?

 

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Whatever he did is permissible to all Muslims.

says who?

 

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And since he married a six year old and had sex with her when she was 9

any evidence for this allegation?

 

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all Muslim males should be allowed to do so.

rubbish drawn out of thin air.

 

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This is the law of Allah which is higher than the law of man

the behaviour of Mohamed is the law of Allah?

 

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Why are these so called religious leaders going against Allah's law and kowtowing to the kafir?

who's the kafir (infidel) they are kowtowing to?

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