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BANGKOK 23 February 2019 15:51
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Video: Last moments of motorcyclist as 18 wheeler flees the scene

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This stupid law / rule or whatever it is that forces or encourages cyclists, bikes etc. to use that stupid hard shoulder as a driving lane is LETHAL, it should be banned immediately.

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4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

The bike to me looks to have a fairly legitimate, though not particularly advisable position. He is on the far inside well before the bend and in the overwhelming majority of occasions, he would have been fine.The lorry just cut the corner too tight, probably not realising the bike was there. One quick look in his mirrors would have alerted him, but many drivers here seem to have no clue what they are there for. I have seen more than a few drivers who adjust them so that they can see themselves, rather than the road behind them.

 

You would have been correct had it happened on a section of the two lane road they were both exiting however, undertaking is not allowed on a slip road.

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11 minutes ago, outsider said:

Sorry that the motorcyclist made a mistake that ended very, very badly for him. This is a common mistake by most motorcyclists in this part of the world, not just Thailand. Why do they need to undertake, or be inside the turn of a turning vehicle? That's the wrong place to be, no matter how one looks at it.

 

Strange but true, turning vehicles do not have right of way in Thailand.

Those travelling straight do, and it doesn't matter if they are on your left or your right, they still have right of way.

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Unfortunately I would have to blame the motorcyclist for very poor judgement. How many times have other posters had a motorcyclist suddenly come down the inside of their car just as they are turning left out of a junction?

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22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You're wrong, in Thailand it's a bicycle and m/c lane.

I'm not arguing against that, as I thought it was a bicycle and m/c lane too.

I'm still trying to find where it states this somewhere though.

So far I have only found this, where the definition of 'curbside' is not clear (to me anyway):

 

"Section 35

(400-1000B)

The driver of a truck, passenger vehicle, motorcycle, vehicle of low speed or traveling at lower speed than those of other vehicles moving in the same direction, shall keep to the curbside of the roadway as close as possible.

 

If such a roadway is divided into two or more traffic lanes in the same direction or has a bus lane specifically arranged on the left-hand side, the driver shall drive the vehicle in the outermost left-hand side lane or close to the bus lane, as the case may be."

 

 

Also, assuming that the very left-hand lane is a 'traffic lane', then 45(b) is interesting  (even though it doesn't apply in this particular situation):

 

"Section 45

(400-1000B)

[No driver shall overtake another vehicle from the left-side unless:

a. the vehicle to be overtaken is making a right turn or has given a signal that he is going to make a right turn

b. the roadway is arranged with two or more traffic lanes in the same direction.]"

 

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4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

The bike to me looks to have a fairly legitimate, though not particularly advisable position. He is on the far inside well before the bend and in the overwhelming majority of occasions, he would have been fine.The lorry just cut the corner too tight, probably not realising the bike was there. One quick look in his mirrors would have alerted him, but many drivers here seem to have no clue what they are there for. I have seen more than a few drivers who adjust them so that they can see themselves, rather than the road behind them.

The bike did not see the truck,and in the bend ,he went to the right and hit himself the truck. The truckdriver kept his line perfectly.

Or are my eyes better than yours?

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4 hours ago, BestB said:

As long as there is an excuse , no matter how retarded or ridicoulos 

The motorcycle was behind the truck before the bend .

The truck slows down to take the bend.

The impatient bike driver starts to overtake the truck and speeds up.

In the bend ,the truckdriver keeps his line.

The motorcycle has too much speed for that bend and swerves to the right side

direction truck.

It is the biker that drives into the truck.

The truckdriver probably did not even feel it ,and can not see anything in his mirrors,because the biker is too close to the truck.

He will never take over a truck in a bend . 

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People seem to forget the bike is where he was supposed to be the truck cut the corner. Blame for both as the bike driver knows truck drivers, drive like idiots, the truck driver knows there are always bikes on the inside lane. That said only one pays the price. RIP.

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15 minutes ago, lucjoker said:

The bike did not see the truck,and in the bend ,he went to the right and hit himself the truck. The truckdriver kept his line perfectly.

Or are my eyes better than yours?

I think the MC driver took his chances and lost.  But it is painfully obvious, the driver of the truck did not maintain his position, crossed the white line into the MC/bicycle/shoulder.

 

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5 hours ago, Just Weird said:

The idiot in this case was the motorcyclist trying to overtake on the left.

And truck driver to lazy to use his mirrors

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9 minutes ago, CanuckThai said:

I think the MC driver took his chances and lost.  But it is painfully obvious, the driver of the truck did not maintain his position, crossed the white line into the MC/bicycle/shoulder.

 

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not true, even after the hit ,the truckdriver is still in his lane.

He did start the bend about 1 m away from the bend ,as he should do,because this is the only and right way to do.If you passed  a truckdriver license ,you would know this .If not....dont argue.

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4 hours ago, VYCM said:

In Australia trucks have right of way when turning left

This is Thailand though.

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4 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

Cleary the truck driver is guilty of failing to stop.  However the unfortunate death of the motor cyclist just typifies the stupidity of motorcyclists in Thailand.  This happens often. They do not have the common sense to understand the physical movement of a truck with trailer whilst making a left curve yet they are still stupid enough to undertake !!  Anyone who suggests that the motorcylist was not at fault for his/her own demise must be sadly lacking in road skills.

Have to agree with most posters here, as an experienced motorcycle rider of 40 plus years, the 1st thing I learnt was not to go up the inside of a car.

 

To be honest I have done it in the past, but with no corners coming up or left turns ahead, or right turns when overtaking, have even gone up the middle, i.e. it gets frustrating when cars either side of me heading in the same direction of a two lane motorway and you get the usual dichead hogging the right lane, your frustrations sometimes getting the better of you and you pull the throttle and launch into warp speed, either up the middle or the left or right side, but not before knowing you have both drivers face/s in their mirrors, sure it's risky, but your usually through in a blink of an eye.

 

In this case, I wouldn't have attempted passing the truck up the inside knowing a corner was coming up, that's as this bloke found out unfortunately, instant death.

 

I would say in this case the driver although having stopped at traffic lights just a little up the road, thought, hey you know what if I keep going, I might actually get away with it, meaning he made things worse for himself, because if he stopped, he could argue the fact that the motor scooter was going up his inside which he didn't see and is illegal, well I would hope it is here.

 

I am aware that Thai law is different to western countries and he would have to probably pay the victims family money for the motor scooter riders death, but that's what 1st class insurance is for right.

 

You have to be very shallow to drive off when you know you just went over someone, ooops forgot where I was for a moment.

 

RIP

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1 minute ago, keith89 said:

And truck driver to lazy to use his mirrors

not so. Before the bend he checked his mirror,nobody next to him and a biker behind him. In the bend ,his eyes are to the front and there is nothing to see in that mirror ,blind angle .

The biker tried to overtake and swerved straight into the truck.....his mistake ,100%

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