mickymouse1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 It sounds like his Pal/'s are involved. To report an incident then do a runner means guilty, if not why not stay behind to help your mate? Am sure easy for the cops to crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, notasmartassknowitallfarag said: Lots more to be invistigated yet before any conclusions can be drawn. You must be new to Thai. visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Very suspicious, especially as his friend "did a runner". RIP Quote: "In April 2007, 19 year old Luke Ramage was locked up for 2 years having admitted charges of possessing Class A drugs (ecstacy and cocaine) on the basis he was minding it for a dealer........ He fell in debt with his supplier" (ref: website of Chronicle Live). Maybe he fell foul of the Bangkok mafia?That explains a lot , probably involved in criminal activity here and was murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Suradit69 said: You must be new to Thai. visa. After reading all the posts and analysing each one I've come to the conclusion I have no idea what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, worgeordie said: RIP, Geordie lad, never even had time to unpack the suitcase, I hope they find the killer and gets whats coming to him. regards worgeordie Since when has somebody from Consett been a Geordie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, notasmartassknowitallfarag said: Strange one this. Friend reports it and then disappears. Mere bruising on shoulders and legs leads to death? Lots more to be invistigated yet before any conclusions can be drawn. RIP. maybe his friend went back to the bar , might be his mate , also i dont know anyone who has died with just bruising on his shoulders and legs so something has been held back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoken Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Nyezhov said: I assume his mate would be a suspect, vanishing and all. I hardly think he should be called his mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, cardinalblue said: no need to mention red light district....what part of bkk isn’t? Lame comment. Probably never been to Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essaybloke Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Rc2702 said: I read the report. Similar to the chap who died a while back with 5 kids. One has to wonder what they were thinking to go on a "lads holiday" They were thinking of getting laid and reliving pre-marriage days. None of your or my business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyle1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Or this scenario: Came to hotel, went straight to bar without unpacking, he and his buddies got "drunk as ****" (celebratin boys tour), took to his room a ladyboy (again...boys tour), things got funky in his room being drunk and all: - tried some aerobic positions together, lost balance, fell unlucky - or may have made a drunken insult to the ladyboy after seeing his "surprise package". LB lost face and fight broke out, brit fell unlucky during the fight. - or got clumsy with his money, ladyboy took advantage (although theft is not proven, safe may be open because he just arrived) - ... Friend probably run because he was scared of police and media hassle. Probably just a drinking buddy, not an actual friend. But he reported so my guess he's innocent. I remember a while back in Pattaya a strong army dude died in his room while "exercising with a ladyboy", fell with his head against the wall and lights were out. Being very drunk just can make things end very badly, even for a young and strong dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 red light area maybe the nana hotel who knows.but it seems if first day in town someone found a friend straight away. and that campanion was not who she was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, freestyle1 said: Or this scenario: Came to hotel, went straight to bar without unpacking, he and his buddies got drunk as **** (happy to be on boys tour at last), took to his room a ladyboy (again...boys tour), things got funky in his room being drunk and all: - got clumsy with his money, ladyboy took advantage is that you his friend telling the story of what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 They are reporting the story in today's UK Daily Mail (17/12/18), with photos. After arriving in Thailand on the day he died, Luke posted a photo on Facebook of himself with his two friends in a bar celebrating the beginning of his holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyle1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, sandrabbit said: is that you his friend telling the story of what happened? No, just one of the many sherlocks on this forum. But it seems the other sherlocks forgot that a "Brit going to a bar on his first night in Bangkok" has a high probability of him being drunk as **** when he comes back at the room. And chances are high that he would have arrived with a companion of the night. Anything could have happened at that point. It's so cliché there is even the song: "One night in Bangkok makes the tough guys tumble... Can't be too careful with your companyI can feel the devil walking next to me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, cyberfarang said: Very strange. Guy arrives at the hotel, not even unpacked yet, safe broken into, friend reports the guy has a problem and then vanishes. Here`s one for Sherlock Holmes. We can do a heck of a lot better than that; we've got Thai Visa armchair detectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Dick Crank said: Usually the culprit does not report problems to the front desk. i guess that rules out the friend as a suspect, shirlock i'm sorry this happened to you Luke, and I pray that you are somehow able to move on after this tragic event. Usually, friends don't just disappear either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, freestyle1 said: Or this scenario: Came to hotel, went straight to bar without unpacking, he and his buddies got "drunk as ****" (celebratin boys tour), took to his room a ladyboy (again...boys tour), things got funky in his room being drunk and all: - tried some aerobic positions together, lost balance, fell unlucky - or may have made a drunken insult to the ladyboy after seeing his "surprise package". LB lost face and fight broke out, brit fell unlucky during the fight. - or got clumsy with his money, ladyboy took advantage (although theft is not proven, safe may be open because he just arrived) - ... Friend probably run because he was scared of police and media hassle. Probably just a drinking buddy, not an actual friend. But he reported so my guess he's innocent. I remember a while back in Pattaya a strong army dude died in his room while "exercising with a ladyboy", fell with his head against the wall and lights were out. Being very drunk just can make things end very badly, even for a young and strong dude. Sounds like you're well up on ladyboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 They are reporting the story in today's UK Daily Mail (17/12/18), with photos. After arriving in Thailand on the day he died, Luke posted a photo on Facebook of himself with his two friends in a bar celebrating the beginning of his holiday.Yep, i took a look at his FB post, his buddy and him were certainly on a mission on this trip, sounds like non stop partying was on the cards !!Very sad ending.RIP Luke and my condolences to family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, freestyle1 said: Or this scenario: Came to hotel, went straight to bar without unpacking, he and his buddies got "drunk as ****" (celebratin boys tour), took to his room a ladyboy (again...boys tour), things got funky in his room being drunk and all: - tried some aerobic positions together, lost balance, fell unlucky - or may have made a drunken insult to the ladyboy after seeing his "surprise package". LB lost face and fight broke out, brit fell unlucky during the fight. - or got clumsy with his money, ladyboy took advantage (although theft is not proven, safe may be open because he just arrived) - ... Friend probably run because he was scared of police and media hassle. Probably just a drinking buddy, not an actual friend. But he reported so my guess he's innocent. I remember a while back in Pattaya a strong army dude died in his room while "exercising with a ladyboy", fell with his head against the wall and lights were out. Being very drunk just can make things end very badly, even for a young and strong dude. You should contact Stephen Leather and ask if he needs a co-writer for his next book 'of fiction' on Bangkok. ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, mommysboy said: Sounds like you're well up on ladyboys. On or in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, mommysboy said: Usually, friends don't just disappear either! Well, if the friend is dead, and staying means trouble.. .. Understandable, doesn't necessarily mean that he's guilty of something, more likely in shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateLoudspeakers Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, dotpoom said: Most lightly he booked the room when he first arrived ..put valuables in the safe, didn't bother unpacking and went straight to the pub ... Maybe came back when the thief was in the room That's a big assumption. Who knows what happened. Maybe there was no thief. The "safe was opened" part of the headline has conditioned your brain into automatically assuming there's a thief. Bruises on shoulders and legs sounds almost like a kickboxer. Maybe he was here for that and maybe the guy with him was also a kickboxer, they got into a fight and he didn't wake up after the fight, so friend panicked and left. Who knows what happened. I came to Thailand with a friend 10 years ago and we were fighting within the first few days as we had never traveled together and started getting on each other's nerves. Im not trying to assume either. Just saying theres many different possibilities here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: 58 minutes ago, mommysboy said: Usually, friends don't just disappear either! Well, if the friend is dead, and staying means trouble.. .. Understandable, doesn't necessarily mean that he's guilty of something, more likely in shock. Or, familiar with the reputation of the local PoPo and the vagaries of the justice system. Blaming a foreigner for the murder fits their goals of closing the case within their allotted 2 hours, while protecting Thailand's reputation as a safe place for tourists to spend their sweaty cash. If he's smart, he's already out of the country. Even if I didn't do it, I wouldn't want to be subjected to proving it. I can always give my evidence from the safety of a friendly country without a dog in the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 How do you ransack a hotel safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, impulse said: Or, familiar with the reputation of the local PoPo and the vagaries of the justice system. Blaming a foreigner for the murder fits their goals of closing the case within their allotted 2 hours, while protecting Thailand's reputation as a safe place for tourists to spend their sweaty cash. If he's smart, he's already out of the country. Even if I didn't do it, I wouldn't want to be subjected to proving it. 3 minutes ago, impulse said: Or, familiar with the reputation of the local PoPo and the vagaries of the justice system. Blaming a foreigner for the murder fits their goals of closing the case within their allotted 2 hours, while protecting Thailand's reputation as a safe place for tourists to spend their sweaty cash. If he's smart, he's already out of the country. Even if I didn't do it, I wouldn't want to be subjected to proving it. Many years ago, when i was still a newbie, i made friends with a Thai woman in the cowboy area, she was still in shock, as a few days before, she woke up in a hotel room, just to find that her night partner, a foreigner, was dead. Something to do with age and viagra, she said. Obviously she ran away, and i couldn't have blamed her. I guess it happens in Bangkok regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: Many years ago, when i was still a newbie, ... What do you mean 'was'?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, NanLaew said: What do you mean 'was'?.... ????.. there you go again with your strange humour.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Rc2702 said: I read the report. Similar to the chap who died a while back with 5 kids. One has to wonder what they were thinking to go on a "lads holiday" Are you just stupid and lack of empathy your morron He probably not live with kids mother and are single man P. S. I normally not writing so bad to people but your post is just absurd RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisuLover Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hey, Ive got an idea. Let's all make wild guesses about what happened, without having as much as a fart of a fact to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Khaosod just released a story with police no longer thinking it's murder. A Thai doctor said he died of heart failure and the bruises were due to rescue services performing CPR in the room before the body was taken to hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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