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I'm an alcoholic and got sober using the 12 steps of AA nearly 30 years ago in Thailand.

Now, I'm getting pretty tired of AA, perhaps due to where I live having few meetings and the ones they have seem to be full of people that are there just for the friendship.

So, I'm thinking of quitting AA and looking for an alternative to keeping me sober. 

Is it possible? I may have been brainwashed but have been told it isn't, and always believed that, until recently.

Has anyone here ever found a solution that is as good as AA?

How does one leave AA? I know there are requirements for membership, that are often ignored, but are there any requirements for leaving?

 

 

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I know many who have basically left AA, never going to meetings, but still call themselves a member.

 

Have you thought about the Hare Krishna movement? 

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Some people get quite agitated when you suggest that there are alternatives to AA. My personal story is of little interest but I managed to get off the juice after many years of heavy drinking when I looked around at my new family here in Thailand and saw how much depended on my staying alive for a few more years yet.

Knowing that you ought to stop and actually stopping are two different things. Getting there must be different from individual to individual. I just stopped completely for more than a year, now I occasionally take a small beer 3 - 4 times a week. 

Good luck mate, take your own advice.

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Well meetings may or may not having anything to do with AA. When the book was publish there was no such thing as an AA meeting. Yes there were nearly 100 people in 3 cities attending meetings that were not called AA. So when someone inquired about the book to learn how to stop drinking and get "recovered", they were instructed to do the first 11 steps and then go to into the their community to find someone who needed and wanted help. They were advised to go to hospitals and other places to find these drunks. Oh they did this because their life depended on it and the result was this became the highlight of their life. 

 

You get what you put it, and you have been bitching about AA for years and the result is your happiness. Its what you give not what you take. How about putting on "a new pair of glasses"

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On 2/21/2019 at 12:41 AM, likerdup1 said:

I don't wish to hang out with guys 30 years sober who have never worked the steps... yes there is a guy in AA around here that said that in a meeting not too long ago

I went to meetings in Pattaya where the chairperson said you only have to do steps 1 and 12.

I was speaking to an old guy that many look up to and he told me he had never done a step 5. Unbelievable.

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On 2/21/2019 at 12:41 AM, likerdup1 said:

( I actually know this to be true in a couple cases) Just hard drinkers who found friendship in AA .... this is actually very bad for real alcoholics who show up looking for help because many in these "meeting maker" meetings are NOT talking about how to recover by doing the 12 steps of AA.

Amen. 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

How did it go MrPatrickThai?

 

I felt the sobriety in Chiang Mai was good. Funny that I never made it to the McCormick Hospital location years ago.

 

I like Bangkok meetings too.

 

AA in Thailand is less treatment center oriented and more like what AA was like when I sobered up in

 

 

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On 3/21/2019 at 11:18 AM, ding said:

How did it go MrPatrickThai?

 

I felt the sobriety in Chiang Mai was good. Funny that I never made it to the McCormick Hospital location years ago.

 

I like Bangkok meetings too.

 

AA in Thailand is less treatment center oriented and more like what AA was like when I sobered up in

 

 

Hi Ding, I've left religious cults before, so I understand the process that is going on in my head. 

I still try to help alcoholics by volunteering at a local psychiatric hospital, this keeps me out of my own head. I still do things similar to AA steps 1,3,10,11,12. This is essential.

 

So far things are going great! That was a good meeting in the hospital in Chiang Mai, apart from one arrogant oldtimer thinking he more important than others. 

 

Aa in Thailand is 95% in treatment centres, apart from the foreign meetings.

 

 

 

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On 2/21/2019 at 12:41 AM, likerdup1 said:

So you don't have to quit AA. Just quit the meetings but still do 12 step work  ... hell if you are in Pattaya .. go out to some bars in the morning and sit down next to an akly who is putting his first drink down... The big book says to start of by just being friendly... then take it from there... you might have your self a sponsee if you do a good job at using the instructions outlined in "working with others' chapter

Great advice!

 

That's kinda what I'm doing. I prefer to focus on the homeless guys, and those in the local loony bin, being a low-bottom drunk myself. 

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On 4/9/2019 at 9:21 AM, Don Chance said:

Baclofen is the generic name of muscle relaxant medications Gablofen and Lioresal. ... This can backfire, however, as baclofen has its own abuse potential. Producing a sensation similar to the euphoria felt from being drunk, baclofen can be addictive, especially when the drug is mixed with opioids, alcohol or amphetamines.

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21 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Baclofen is the generic name of muscle relaxant medications Gablofen and Lioresal. ... This can backfire, however, as baclofen has its own abuse potential. Producing a sensation similar to the euphoria felt from being drunk, baclofen can be addictive, especially when the drug is mixed with opioids, alcohol or amphetamines.

Why don't read the web site instead of making up stuff?

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