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Samui "song thaew" driver agrees to pay foreigner's 6,000 baht hospital bill after fare "misunderstanding"

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6000 baht. Sounds like a very guilty conscience to me. Especially after fleeing the scene with his accomplices. Too save face?  If he was in the right why would he offer to pay the money if lodging a counter complaint. Also why did it take him so long to report to police station. Probably needed a quiet phone call from his uncle, cousin, etc.... from the police station.

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12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is highly doubtful the tourists were lying about the fare. This kind of fleecing is so common on Samui. And the driver deserves whatever beating he got. It is all about face. And how do I feel about face, the single greatest form of human weakness there is?

 

Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

 

Who cares what people think of you? For those of us with high self esteem, it just does not matter. Sure, close friends and family. But strangers on the street? Who gives a rat's butt about this? It means nothing what they think, nor what they say about you. They count for nothing. They are just people, and people you do not know, nor will ever see again. Face is rife with self doubt, and by subscribing to this weakness, and man or woman is made a far lesser person. For those of us with high self esteem, we know who we are. What others think, what society thinks, what a guy or gal thinks, means less than zero.

Real men or women, simply own a situation, and take responsibility for their errors or mistakes. Small men, social deviants, or emotional adolescents deflect, obfuscate, attempt to confuse, and do everything in their power to deny that they made a mistake, or that they are responsible in any way, or on any level. They make up narratives about fake news, or alternative facts. Anything to avoid looking within, for the source of the problem. Anything.

What you say is "Face" i sum up to "Thainess." 

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Anyone can be ripped off in any country, but I think Thailand leads the way with assaults on both Thai's and tourists...

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He might actually have offered 800 baht all in and been misunderstood... whose story do you believes... 2 drunk exchange students or a songthaew driver... it's anyone's guess. 

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It seems to me the result of his complaint to the police was that he was fined an unspecified sum for affray and he can say to the hospital that the Thai man, Wanchai, must pay their bill because the police say so!  
The hospital will surely never ask a Thai man to pay a foreigner's bill, even if he had the money.  My bet is the bill is already paid by the foreigner or he will be pursued for it as being the only person legally liable.
 
So, for arguing with the driver he has suffered significant injuries, is 6,000 baht worse off and also has to pay a fine for affray (of an unspecified amount). Truly T.I.T.

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Why would you even bother going there now?..It costs a arm and a leg to fly there direct for starters and Chaweng is a shadow of its former self with expensive beach bars replacing the older original Arc Bar and others.The shopping mall is just like any other you'd find in a Western country and the beach's there are filthy with waste if you look hard enough(eg the bridge area going into Lamai).Thailand is s..tting into its own nest unfortunately especially with the currency exchange being so strong!

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16 hours ago, NobbyClarke said:

I am astonished with the posts.

I have been ripped off by taxi drivers in London(I am a Brit), New York, Paris and every other major tourist hub I have visited.It happens!!!!

Thailand is a  wonderful Kingdom with kind, caring, polite and respectful people which is why many choose to live in the amazement and excitement of everything.

 

British sarcasm at its best 😂😂

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he must have been over a barrell to pay out that money no choice or the monkey house.nice to see the thai having to fork out the cash for a mistake

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2 hours ago, bristolgeoff said:

he must have been over a barrell to pay out that money no choice or the monkey house.nice to see the thai having to fork out the cash for a mistake

In your country when you beat a tourist, the only punishment

is to pay the hospital bill for the beaten up?
and beating a tourist is just a mistake?

Is it only about Chinese tourists or everyone?

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On Thu Jan 03 2019 at 7:18 AM, spidermike007 said:

It is highly doubtful the tourists were lying about the fare. This kind of fleecing is so common on Samui. And the driver deserves whatever beating he got. It is all about face. And how do I feel about face, the single greatest form of human weakness there is?

 

Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

 

Who cares what people think of you? For those of us with high self esteem, it just does not matter. Sure, close friends and family. But strangers on the street? Who gives a rat's butt about this? It means nothing what they think, nor what they say about you. They count for nothing. They are just people, and people you do not know, nor will ever see again. Face is rife with self doubt, and by subscribing to this weakness, and man or woman is made a far lesser person. For those of us with high self esteem, we know who we are. What others think, what society thinks, what a guy or gal thinks, means less than zero.

Real men or women, simply own a situation, and take responsibility for their errors or mistakes. Small men, social deviants, or emotional adolescents deflect, obfuscate, attempt to confuse, and do everything in their power to deny that they made a mistake, or that they are responsible in any way, or on any level. They make up narratives about fake news, or alternative facts. Anything to avoid looking within, for the source of the problem. Anything.

well certainly you deeply explained

the thai peoples character...its all what people think about you and how you appear in the eyes of the others.. people who geared this way have a weak inner self etc...BUT this are the facts ...so we always need  to he careful intetacting with them...usualy I let them look good let them be the hero....that way I move around easy...

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at least he manned up and paid the hospital bill.

was in samui this new year and man, it was almost empty so can understand the aggressiveness of people making business there still it is not an excuse of course, not my problem too.

i just want a good service.

I also believe that tuk tuk guys didnt attack the tourists for nothing. maybe they act in an arrogant manner.

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On 1/3/2019 at 5:18 PM, spidermike007 said:

It is highly doubtful the tourists were lying about the fare. This kind of fleecing is so common on Samui. And the driver deserves whatever beating he got. It is all about face. And how do I feel about face, the single greatest form of human weakness there is?

 

Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

 

Who cares what people think of you? For those of us with high self esteem, it just does not matter. Sure, close friends and family. But strangers on the street? Who gives a rat's butt about this? It means nothing what they think, nor what they say about you. They count for nothing. They are just people, and people you do not know, nor will ever see again. Face is rife with self doubt, and by subscribing to this weakness, and man or woman is made a far lesser person. For those of us with high self esteem, we know who we are. What others think, what society thinks, what a guy or gal thinks, means less than zero.

Real men or women, simply own a situation, and take responsibility for their errors or mistakes. Small men, social deviants, or emotional adolescents deflect, obfuscate, attempt to confuse, and do everything in their power to deny that they made a mistake, or that they are responsible in any way, or on any level. They make up narratives about fake news, or alternative facts. Anything to avoid looking within, for the source of the problem. Anything.

Blah Blah Blah

 

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On ‎1‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 10:47 AM, Justgrazing said:

Only 6 to 1 ratio .. Unusually low geared this one .. 

There were four tourists involved, not one.  It's all there in the OP for you to read but that wouldn't be as much fun as inventing garbage, would it?

Edited by Just Weird

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On ‎1‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 1:11 PM, seahorse said:

The reporting leaves a lot to be desired as usual. 

First it says Mr Fagin went to the police and then it says that the police arrived at the scene. 

Which is it? 

It's not too difficult, he went to the police station after he had been treated in hospital?  The police arrived at the fight scene before he went to hospital?

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