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BANGKOK 21 February 2019 12:44
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Video: Woman driver "definitely to blame" after death of TV host and store manager in Chiang Mai

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Looking at the video in slo-mo you can see that the horizontal beam of the barrier simply shears away from the vertical legs almost in one piece. It doesn't appear to break at the cracked point. No metal connection between the hoorizontal beam and the legs just a spot of cement to tack it on?

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A classic lazy Thai turn by the CRV - should be on the right hand side of the lane. Hard to tell if it was indicating a right turn. The other car going too fast. The rest is a scenario that could and does happen daily here.

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Unless there is 2 marked lanes on bridge, only one lane can legally turn so therefore a car should not turn from the center lane if there a right turn lane...

 

i see many times cars turn from a center lane trying to speed by the right hand turning car....

 

in this case the right hand lane doesn’t turn right colliding with speeding center lane car trying to cut the corner...thus his foot was on the gas and thus goes thru barrier rather than breaking...

 

both at fault and my guess the lines are poorly marked or doesn’t exist for a center lane right hand turn

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three things that could mitigate wichitra's (driver of the toyota) are 1) she was on the correct lane, 2) she could have also fallen into the canal as a result of the collision, and 3) that barrier was made out of wafer or cardboard. however, wichitra also drove fast which is a point against her.

 

i checked street view and took some screenshots. the yellow hatches on the innermost lane is also marked for U-turn, while those on the middle lane are supposed to go straight.

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2 hours ago, Youlike said:

I see this all the time...maybe there were no good roadsigns for the right turn? Thai start steering before checking their mirrors..that's what you get from a 500 baht driverlicense.

All Thais need at least 2 lanes or to do a turn or Uturn. Cant blame the vehicles as mine 2 dont need such a huge space. So yes the 500 baht license rings true here.

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2 hours ago, saigonsunset said:

How did they not manage to break before falling down? The collission was hardly a massive impact that would knock you out. Amazing ...

The driver might have been injured when the other car ran into it, didn't think to (or couldn't) break in time. 

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23 minutes ago, EL159 said:

In this area, there are TWO lanes, then an area next to the canal signified by a yellow line and which is only half a lane wide. Driving inside the yellow is supposed to be forbidden, I never go in it, but increasingly people have started to use the illegal narrow area as a third lane. Highly dangerous, as when you re in the second lane, when you see a vehicle illegally coming up behind you inside the yellow, you have to move to the left to let them through otherwise they would scrape the side of your car.

 

Of course, theres ZERO policing of this very regular manouvre. In fact, the police often have roadside checks for tax, helmets etc in full view of this "third lane" manouvre but they do nothing whatsoever, just continue collecting the 500 bahts! 

 

In this case, the CRV was definitely in the correct lane, and the dark car was speeding inside the yellow so was entirely 100% to blame. Those of us who live here are aware of this "yellow lane menace" and watching for it all the time, but perhaps the deceased were out of towners and wouldnt be aware?

i also don't drive on that lane. probably to avoid confusion, authorities should rub out the U-turn marking on that lane.

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2 hours ago, johng said:

I can't agree with that...the CRV driver  should have seen the vehicle in the right most lane

and should have been in the right most lane to make the turn...not cut across the other lane.

 

As you say....I am amazed at how many Thai drivers do exactly as seen here. If they are turning into a shop or a gas station or whatever ...they never seem to get into the proper lane before making the turn. On thousands of occasions I see them making the turn from the 2nd lane out. God help those on motorbikes who would not see an indicator  (if one was used) or more lightly be in the drivers "blind spot".

   Have had more than a few near misses myself.

  What can I say only ...May the deceased RIP.

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3 hours ago, saigonsunset said:

How did they not manage to break before falling down? The collission was hardly a massive impact that would knock you out. Amazing ...

  Don’t you know? All road accidents in Thailand are caused by brake failure. 

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3 hours ago, saigonsunset said:

How did they not manage to break before falling down? The collission was hardly a massive impact that would knock you out. Amazing ...

My thoughts exactly, guess they just had a spell of Karma, many people have walked away from much worse without even a scratch! Difficult to see from the front though, where all that concrete ended up, a face full of that and you are going to need more than those diamond studs to put your teeth right.

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1 hour ago, kcpattaya said:

Correct: The Honda CRV driver cut-off the Toyota.
The reason she is been charged with negligent driving is probably because she's not a "celebrity"....


@kcpattayaThe Honda CRV was in the correct lane for turning right. The black Toyota was passing on an orange or yellow marked shoulder where nobody is allowed to drive (yet everyone does). Now some people might think it is smart to use the orange marked shoulder for a right turn. That might be the case although illegal. But going straight on a shoulder when left of it is a lane for turning left, is outright stupid and we have seen the consequences

Open Google Street View to find out for yourself.

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Oh... and here how it was in a caption of Street View in 2011 (Toyota driver would have been right to turn right but not to go straight)

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35 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

As you say....I am amazed at how many Thai drivers do exactly as seen here. If they are turning into a shop or a gas station or whatever ...they never seem to get into the proper lane before making the turn. On thousands of occasions I see them making the turn from the 2nd lane out. God help those on motorbikes who would not see an indicator  (if one was used) or more lightly be in the drivers "blind spot".

   Have had more than a few near misses myself.

  What can I say only ...May the deceased RIP.

@dotpoomThe driver of the CRV was in the proper lane. The right hand side is a clearly marked shoulder (not a lane by no means) where nobody should be, not for turning right and not for driving straight at all

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