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you forgot to include the words "monthly deposit" which IMO makes this whole thing a complete nonsense, I hate giving banks money in fees and this would force me to pay monthly fees to my home bank and it is not about the money it is about the fee no matter how big or small
 
as of now I have never used the income method for 12 month extension but I would like to have had the option of a combo method it I wanted to use it at some future time
 
My question is - why is one yearly deposit from outside Thailand not the same as 12 monthly deposits - in effect it is the same thing
Where did you see "monthly"

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6 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

It does use the word "average."  One assumes that means the amount can vary from month to month or even be deposited less frequently than each month as long as it averages out to Baht 65,000 a month.

 

Of course if some months the amount is less than Baht 65,000 that would mean you'd have to sit there while someone enters 12 monthly deposits and then divides by 12 and possibly does it a second time to confirm. 

 

 

one yearly deposit would make it very simple to work out lol

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my understanding: for first year, you can apply for visa in your own country, showing your own $/funds same as 800k in bank.
 


To get a 1 year non o visa at the Thai embassy in Los Angeles you only have to show about $700 in the bank.
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Just now, Suradit69 said:

It does use the word "average."  One assumes that means the amount can vary from month to month or even be deposited less frequently than each month as long as it averages out to Baht 65,000 a month.

 

Of course if some months the amount is less than Baht 65,000 that would mean you'd have to sit there while someone enters 12 monthly deposits and then divides by 12 and possibly does it a second time to confirm. 

 

 

What I understand from this is that there has to be monthly deposit from abroad, which averages 65K a month at the end of the 12 month cycle.

 

I hope I'm wrong about the need to have a monthly transfer from abroad

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6 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

all i see is... Thai Imm trying to do things more harder than now as if its not hard enough.

 

I have an American friend and gets his NON-O (thai wife) 1 year extension by a income letter from his embassy. His income is not real. He just tells the embassy and they give a letter, thats all. Now some might thing its ok, some might thing its not fair at all. I think IMM noticed this and decided to take an action, which is fair enough.

 

What i dont understand is... why your income should be 40K? I mean when thai ppl get married their income not even 30K (most of them) so why the law changes when it comes to farang... Also why both husband and wife income not count?! One of my friends income is 31K + 8K = 39K he cant get an extension... for 1K.

 

If i understood correctly the most important thing they changed is this certificate the income letter and make sure you really have that income. The rest seems all same. For the retirements still no problem because i have another friend from the UK, and as mentioned before his pension come to Krungthai every month and no problem. He can use it with his Krungthai card. Also Bangkok Bank is great about this. They are more pro.

 

I believe their next action will be about NON-O 90 days visa run thing. As we all know they already stopped it in big borders. And i believe more is coming. So.. its really becoming more difficult and stressful getting NON-O and stay on it.

 

Thanks for the great info though! This is why i love this website.

Last year I posted about getting a 1 year MO in HCMC. I had the 400,000+ in the bank and copy of of the bank book in the paperwork, just in case.

The lady checked it and kept it in the pile. I said, I wasn't sure if you needed that and her reply was that soon? all places will be asking for it.

I was 'of course' shot down by quite a few posters.

Just sayin'

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When some embassies stopped issuing income confirmation letters, there were posters on some of these threads that said; they will use an agency to borrow the money or borrow from somewhere else to obtain their annual extensions. Then I said; this could have a knock-on effect of immigration demanding to see proof of where the money is coming from.
 
So in fact this could mean immigration will cease the lump sum in a Thai bank option and insist on monies being brought over monthly from credible sources. 
 
Hope this is not the case, because I doubt many retirees receive the amount of 65000 baht per month, especially now with the strong baht and weak foreign currencies.
 
I do hate these rotten vague reports that become a guessing game of what`s going to happen next. 
Read Ubon Joe's reply. It's not the full translation which is coming tomorrow. You will know more then
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1 hour ago, taichiplanet said:

so the yearly amount based on monthly income:

for marriage is 480k;

for retirement is 780k.

 

Whereas the amount held in an account was (still is?) 400k for marriage and 800k for retirement.

 

Just note, the actual language posted in the OP says EVERY MONTH, which presumably means you'll have to be able to show at least the minimum required amount arriving EVERY MONTH during a 12 month period prior to your application.  That presumably means you can't, for example, do larger deposits in 10 months and then happen to skip payments for two months.

 

The language they're using now does NOT include the term AVERAGE monthly payment of....

 

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3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The new order is an amendment to these clauses of police order 138/2557 titled "Supporting documents for Consideration of an Alien’s Application for a Temporary Stay in the Kingdom of Thailand". //

I think you should add that in the OP, and also make clear in it that the 400/800k option is still available and unchanged. This would avoid a lot of questions and speculations about it... IMHO :sleep:

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Hardly "limited information". It's come from TI and lays out the new requirements to obtain a visa extension.

 

"Well what about me" mode? We all have different circumstances and need different solutions to the same problem.

 

It's not all about you, Crabby.

It is limited info until someone actually gets an extension based upon the new regs.

 

And they have to issue regs that will accommodate the greatest number of extension seekers possible while avoiding a logistical nightmare at the IMM offices which is what some people with their "what about me?" circumstances unique to them might ensue.

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1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

2.       Evidence of a pension. Letter of certification from a Thai bank supported by bank statements showing a pension being transferred to the pensioner’s bank account every month for at least 12 months

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13 minutes ago, smedly said:
you forgot to include the words "monthly deposit" which IMO makes this whole thing a complete nonsense, I hate giving banks money in fees and this would force me to pay monthly fees to my home bank and it is not about the money it is about the fee no matter how big or small
 
as of now I have never used the income method for 12 month extension but I would like to have had the option of a combo method it I wanted to use it at some future time
 
My question is - why is one yearly deposit from outside Thailand not the same as 12 monthly deposits - in effect it is the same thing

Where did you see "monthly"

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