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Britons would now vote to stay in EU, want second referendum: poll

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1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Do those phantasies come from the same spin doctors who put the 350 on the bus and who told you you would get pink unicorns and castles in the sky for the price of a sandwich?

 

Why don’t you have a look in the constitution. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t say anywhere that the U.K. is a system of government by manipualed opinion polls. Nor would anyone else agree that democracy is a system of government by manipulated opinion polls. That would be borderline banana state democracy. 

It's actually a perfect example pf a society run by Anarchy, where governance id devolved to the lowest possible level.

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3 hours ago, Patriot1066 said:

Well remainers seem to have to resort to insults like tin hats, gammon etc, and Little England is better than no England wishing the EU. Stick to facts the discussion will be easier.

 

Foreign billionaire such as Soros through his ‘open democracy’ charity just gave 500 million to the leave campaign, it should be illegal to accept such donations from foreign donors and Siri’s once brought the country to its knees so seems no friend of the English!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/29/george-soros-drastic-action-needed-for-eurozone-to-survive

 

With Romania now holding the EU presidency it will be interesting to see forward momentum of the EU. I don’t mind staying in if it means wrecking it from the inside, forcing lower budgets  bans on running up future debt and actual accounts that match up why not a second referendum can happen for me we will win again. 

 

What can remain offer no changes? Like Ford moving factories out of the UK on EU development grants? Jaguar building factories in Slovakia with state aid we are not allowed to give? The list is endless we are just a piggy bank for the EU to break into.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/01/10/eu-rules-left-slovakia-free-entice-jaguar-land-rover-uk-110m/

 

Isnt the EU our great friend taking our fishing and jobs yeas really great

You think Soros gave 500M to the leave campaign? You want to be taken seriously? Brexiters should at least try to get their facts straight for an issue as important as this.

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3 hours ago, Patriot1066 said:

Well remainers seem to have to resort to insults like tin hats, gammon etc, and Little England is better than no England wishing the EU. Stick to facts the discussion will be easier.

 

Foreign billionaire such as Soros through his ‘open democracy’ charity just gave 500 million to the leave campaign, it should be illegal to accept such donations from foreign donors and Siri’s once brought the country to its knees so seems no friend of the English!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/29/george-soros-drastic-action-needed-for-eurozone-to-survive

 

With Romania now holding the EU presidency it will be interesting to see forward momentum of the EU. I don’t mind staying in if it means wrecking it from the inside, forcing lower budgets  bans on running up future debt and actual accounts that match up why not a second referendum can happen for me we will win again. 

 

What can remain offer no changes? Like Ford moving factories out of the UK on EU development grants? Jaguar building factories in Slovakia with state aid we are not allowed to give? The list is endless we are just a piggy bank for the EU to break into.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/01/10/eu-rules-left-slovakia-free-entice-jaguar-land-rover-uk-110m/

 

Isnt the EU our great friend taking our fishing and jobs yeas really great

JAL moved because of brexit the state aid came after,as for state aid Nissan have had it off the UK govt so its tit for tat,as for running up future debts we will need the EU to keep JC in check otherwise its Venuzuela here we come

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50 minutes ago, Chartist said:

 

Your like a little toddler that didn't get his own way having a tantrum, the referendum didn't go my way so I'm gonna throw a massive tantrum call it an 'opinion poll' and demand we have another one, and another and another till I get what I want whaaa waaa waaaaa. 

Maybe you should scroll up again and have a look at who said what in this discussion: when Brexiteers threat to resort to riot amd violence should the parliament’s sovereignty not work their way; when Brexiteers ignore the constitution because they don’t like that a referendum is only advisory. Then I’m wondering who is acting like a little toddler and throwing tantrums. 

 

At the end of the day, there’s something called reality and you will have to face it. If you can’t see already, you will see by end of March latest that the referendum has only been an opinion poll and that it is the parliament deciding. 

 

You can then throw bottles (or tantrums) and you will again face reality which will be a prison cell. 

 

 

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Were the results of the referendum overturned and we remained in the EU in effect it would be saying to the British people that the system is rigged and that the politicians don't represent the public. To expect everyone to continue voting for Labour and the Tories is naive at best, it would let a whole new genie out of the bottle.

“the system” by constitution is parliamentary representative democracy. It is not government by manipulated opinion polls. You would have to change the constitution to change that, and Cameron failed to do so before the 2016 opinion poll. 

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33 minutes ago, Grouse said:

You think Soros gave 500M to the leave campaign? You want to be taken seriously? Brexiters should at least try to get their facts straight for an issue as important as this.

Probably a mistake doing the copy and paste.

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Likely hood of the various scenarios, all plotted on one nice big diagram - courtesy @jonworth on twitter 

 

 

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5 hours ago, oilinki said:

Let's assume that UK based company value is 100. Let's assume it's listed in stock market, based in UK. Let's also assume that the stock market uses pound to compare stock values to real money.

 

All clear by now?

 

If the pound value drops 10% compared to the rest of the currencies, what happens to the real value of that 100 pound value of that company?

 

Even if the stock prices has been the same for the 100 pound valued company, is no longer 100 valued what pounds used to be anymore. Its value is only 90 pounds, when compared to the larger economic picture, even if it's value is showing 100 pounds in the local stock exchange. 

 

Confusing?

No. Patronising.

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3 hours ago, Grouse said:

Can't Brexiters get anything right? The money is in support of a second referendum with a view to stopping Brexit 🙈

Er....Bristolboy is a remainer, innit? Have another Gorilla Hip to settle yourself.

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41 minutes ago, tebee said:

Likely hood of the various scenarios, all plotted on one nice big diagram - courtesy @jonworth on twitter 

 

 

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No chance at all then that the "I Did It May Way" deal will be accepted? If she can keep dragging this whole thing out to 29th March, all the winkers will be so scared by then they just might vote for it. 

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

No chance at all then that the "I Did It May Way" deal will be accepted? If she can keep dragging this whole thing out to 29th March, all the winkers will be so scared by then they just might vote for it. 

The are talking about it being defeated by an estimated majority of 225!

 

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2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I don't need the 50 quid that George Soros bungs me every month but as Tesco used to say every little helps. Grouse I believe is on substantially more then he put in the hours, posts and time and well-crafted facts so tis well deserved.  Tebe and Alex Rich do it gratis I believe - true selfless European patriots that they are. 

No mate, Soros has me on minimum wage, the tight get!!

 

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