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BANGKOK 24 March 2019 15:48
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CONFIRMED: Here is exactly what’s needed for retirement & marriage extensions (income method) from 2019

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22 hours ago, Mapguy said:

Check your passbook next time you update for the code.

Just for you.....

Updated book and passbook shows the Transferwise transfer from UK to my Bangkok Bank account with code SMT, for SMART. So unlikely it would be useful for proof of overseas income. I suspect it was transferred between 2 Thai banks as it hung around within Thailand for 6 hours before landing in my account.

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3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Just for you.....

Updated book and passbook shows the Transferwise transfer from UK to my Bangkok Bank account with code SMT, for SMART. So unlikely it would be useful for proof of overseas income. I suspect it was transferred between 2 Thai banks as it hung around within Thailand for 6 hours before landing in my account.

Thanks for this.  Many were under the false-impression that a Bangkok Bank account would always show Transferwise-transfers as international.  Clearly, this is not the case.

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26 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I use a taxi driver.  Just tell him to hand the paperwork in and wait in the cab.  Costs 100 baht.

Then you are lucky, as I doubt (but admittedly could be wrong) that Immigration would be happy to accept paperwork from an unknown taxi driver only paying 100 bht to 'fast track'.

 

Let alone a taxi driver being happy to provide this service for nothing - or 100 bht. (assuming he has to stand in line for ages without paying anything to Immigration for a 'fast track' service)?

 

Edit - not to mention the cost of a taxi to drive to Immigration and back, whilst you are waiting in the taxi!  It used to cost me 1200 bht for a taxi to Immigration and back, whilst HE waits in the car!

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15 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Which is precisely why xylophone should have quoted my entire post, rather than a snippet.

Sumrit said: That still doesn't make it right. 

 

Some of us have always played by the immigration rules and we're now restricted by the tightening of those rules while 'many squillions' (Take squillions to mean a great many!) who don't qualify are still able to break the law to stay here because of the way the agents are allowed to operate.

 

Sorry gentlemen, my apologies, what I was trying to convey is that because payments (the squillions referred to the amount of baht) are made to certain folk, then it is unlikely that agents will be banned.

 

Some expats use agents in the "correct" manner and I believe that is a good service, but I am against the "under the counter methods" used by others, when folks like us comply with the rules. 

 
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2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Using swifts for me would cost an extra 17k baht a year, //

17kB?? Do you make a transfer each week or what ?? :ohmy:

Or if you have swift fee about $20-30, maybe you should change of bank at home, because it's just a rip off.

FYI the swift transfer fee from PostFinance (in Switzerland) is about $5...

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Just did my 1 year extension. Took about 30 minutes with a re-entry stamp. 2900 baht. Used the American income letter from the embassy. 

Asked the guy there what was up? He explained the new rules and that was it. 

Pony up or leave basically. Pretty cut and dried for us Americans at this point.

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1 hour ago, Olmate said:

What’s wrongful here, waiving seasoning, within the guidelines for TI?

From Section 35 Thai Immigration Act 2522 (1979):

 

"Each application of an alien for extension of temporary stay shall be made in the form and with payment of fees as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations."

 

... or 1900 baht.

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1 hour ago, sumrit said:

Not entirely.

Oh.

If you think the new regs should've been something else, fine. Noted.

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Last week I made my first transfer of 41,000 baht from Bank of America to Kbank here. To do the new monthly income requirement. 

My US acount shows international transfer sent,  but my Kbank says domestic transfer recieved. 

Imagration states it wants to see 12 deposits for 12 months from international or foriegn acount right? 

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17kB?? Do you make a transfer each week or what ?? ohmy.gif&key=e961c69407437fa26d74962b3aeacf9ab082252a4b54dbc0ad83b6f704c552d3 Or if you have swift fee about $20-30, maybe you should change of bank at home, because it's just a rip off.

FYI the swift transfer fee from PostFinance (in Switzerland) is about $5...

 

swift is often expensive in the UK hence people using Transferwise instead. For me swifts are £25, then there is the thai bank charge of £10. So £35+ a month so over the course of the year its about 17k baht, more than using an agent.

 

There are UK banks that charge less but have other costs instead such as monthly account fee or lower interest rate on deposits

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:
3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Using swifts for me would cost an extra 17k baht a year, //

17kB?? Do you make a transfer each week or what ?? :ohmy:

Or if you have swift fee about $20-30, maybe you should change of bank at home, because it's just a rip off.

FYI the swift transfer fee from PostFinance (in Switzerland) is about $5...

Can't comment on Switzerland's costs and I haven't used a SWIFT transfer from my UK bank for a long time but last time I did the bank charges from my UK bank were about £10 (even at today's lousy rate that's about 410 baht), then add the exchange rate loss equivalent of about 1000 baht per month (one baht in the £) and the Thai bank charges of 3-500 baht. That adds up to at around 2k baht per month.....24k baht per year. The total cost of sending £1000 is £6.96 (about 285 baht per month) 3,424 baht per year..........That's a saving of over 20k baht by using Transferwise compared to a Lloyds bank UK SWIFT transfer

 

And even bigger saving than scubascuba3 had estimated.

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27 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

Oh.

If you think the new regs should've been something else, fine. Noted.

So do you not agree then that it's wrong that some people use an agent to cheat the system to effectively stay here illegally while those of us that have always abided by the ruled are now restricted and have to comply with stricter Extension rules than we had before.  

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10 minutes ago, sumrit said:

So do you not agree then that it's wrong that some people use an agent to cheat the system to effectively stay here illegally while those of us that have always abided by the ruled are now restricted and have to comply with stricter Extension rules than we had before.  

Why don't you send your complain to Big Joke? :wink:

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Great. Another thread turned into a discussion about use of Agents whilst people are trying to sieve through important information. 

 

Are there not enough already?

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45 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

Oh.

If you think the new regs should've been something else, fine. Noted.

The real test could come next January.

 

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