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4 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

 

I notice that in your latest post there is no mention anymore about the document the land office has issued, which you mentioned in your earlier posts, only the bill of sales.

 

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It is written in Thai, stamped and dated, and attached to a copy of the bill of sale. I understand that it is an acknowledgement of the bill of sale.

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Doesn't sound too good to be honest...

 

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This notwithstanding me showing him a copy of the bill of sale, for two rai, signed by the vendor. He says that he believes the vendors claim that she only sold one rai.

 

He's either in on the scam or an idiot. The land office could also be in on the scam, what u should do is. Take your lawyer and go to the next higher land office for the whole region and tell them whats happening.

 

And as for your lawyer, either use one u used before and u can trust or take a flight to Bangkok and go to an international or at least big company.

regional lawyers are often crooks and easy to bribe. 


 

 

Do you have anything registered on the Chanote, like a lease, usufruct....anything? If not uhm that might get a real problem.

 

if not the squatter rights might rescue your ass: 

https://www.tilleke.com/sites/default/files/2013-jun28-land-ownership.pdf

 

 

 

There's no way that guy is wealthy in any way, or he wouldnt start a stupid fight in a court case over 400 000 THB at a chanote he never background checked, maybe hes trying to steal your house tho... DO NOT LET HIM ON YOUR POSESSION. he might try to lock you out and change locks etc.

 

 

Lawyer up, lawyer up, lawyer up.... And don't expect stuff to work as in the UK here, Thai logic is everywhere - however this is a civil law case and most of thailands civil law is based on german law, so there's a bit of logic left.

 

 

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It is written in Thai, stamped and dated, and attached to a copy of the bill of sale. I understand that it is an acknowledgement of the bill of sale.

Start a litigation case against the seller, sales contracts are normally enforceable...

 

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he also let slip that he intends to close off the soi which runs along the front of our land, and which is used by the local farmers to access their fields!

 

 

You should have a right to use this road if its not a public road registered on the original chanote, thats how u normally make sure you cannot be cut off from your own plot of land.

 

Normally it says sth that Chanote X is allowed to access Chanote Y over a 3 metre long road and also allowed to use electricity, water etc from the parent chanote.

 

 

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Did your wife have a blue book for the house ?

 

You talk about 15 years ago and didn't get a Chainote.... Was at this time the ground be only a No Sor 3 ?

In this case the original owner couldn't sell it until he hold it for 20 (15?) years.

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Is it in a village small town. Seek the Poyaabahn's (head) advice and assistance 

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27 minutes ago, Rv Hawee said:

Did your wife have a blue book for the house ?

 

You talk about 15 years ago and didn't get a Chainote.... Was at this time the ground be only a No Sor 3 ?

In this case the original owner couldn't sell it until he hold it for 20 (15?) years.

Yes, we've had a Tabian Ban since the house was built.

As for your second question I don't know.

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If you don't know find it out 😉

 

Take your wife and go to the land office, request copys of the Chanotes history, it should show a step by step upgrade to a chanote title and when it was done etc.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, JAG said:

Yes, we've had a Tabian Ban since the house was built.

As for your second question I don't know.

I posted a picture of a Chanote (not a nor saw sam). It has the word "Chanote" right at the top (in Thai obviously).

Does it look like that? Or can you ask your wife if it's a Chanote or a Nor Saw Sam, or even perhaps another land document?

 

edit: The thing I missed regarding the Chanote: It has a map halfway down the page detailing the land. At the top the page the land size is listed in Rai, Ngan, Talangwa.

Again the numbers are in Thai script, but if you see that you can work out the size of the plot it covers.

 

edit2: If you can see the details, this will show you the Thai land size in metric: http://www.udon-thani-homes.com/english/thai-land-sizes-en.html

 

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16 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I posted a picture of a Chanote (not a nor saw sam). .../...

Yes. I din't think it was your because (bad news)

You have only half a rai, not 2 !

My wife just confirm it !

You have about 800sqm of ground, 2 gnan (2w400sqm) and 6 tarangwa (12 sqm)

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5 minutes ago, Rv Hawee said:

Yes. I din't think it was your because (bad news)

You have only half a rai, not 2 !

My wife just confirm it !

You have about 800sqm of ground, 2 gnan (2w400sqm) and 6 tarangwa (12 sqm)

You misunderstand.

I posted that Chanote as an example to show the OP (JAG) what one looked like, in case he could use it to compare the document his wife has.

The discussion was trying to find out exactly what the land document is.

 

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😅 😅 Ok, i got confused by reading a little too fast, thinking you were the OP....

(all this farang have same names and same faces 😅 😅... ) my apologizes.

I wish the OP have a good Chanot with the proper size noted (it's really helpful when you stay far from a lot and some neighbors try to "borrow" some of your place...)

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Jag,

Any update on your ongoing hassles regarding the land and documents?

 

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4 minutes ago, JingjoDave said:

JAG pushing up daisies ,, or in this case Coffee trees ?

Ha ha! Well he still appears to be online - perhaps he's searching for coffee tree fertiliser?

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Are you sure it is JAG on line or the coffee lady?

 

Anyway ,,, a lesson for all about buying land without a "chanote" or whatever,,,, I'm lucky ( not) having land with 34 chanote's ,,  one of them is for a peice less than 11 square metres LOL

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