webfact Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Record-Breaking Number Of Americans Want To Get Out Of U.S. Forever The percentage of Americans wanting to jump ship is markedly higher under the Trump administration than it was under his predecessors. By Amy Russo President Donald Trump may have staked his campaign on making America great again, but more citizens than ever before want to get out permanently. In 2018, 16 percent of Americans said that they would like to move to another country, according to a Gallup poll released Friday. While that number matches 2017 data and doesn’t stray much from global standards, it remains significantly higher than it was during the presidencies of Barack Obama or George W. Bush. In the Obama administration, 10 percent wanted to jump ship. The figure was 11 percent in the Bush administration. The divide between men and women is also telling. Since Trump took office, 20 percent of women would like to leave, compared with 13 percent of men. Full story: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americans-want-to-leave_us_5c302e4fe4b0d75a9830d1cc -- HUFFINGTON POST 2019-01-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Don't let the door hit your butt.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeEyedRaven Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Seems the Greatest country on earths title seems to be slipping. Cant say I blame them. I wouldn't want to live somewhere with no universal health care, indiscriminate shootings all the time and a leader such as they have right now, just to scratch the surface of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The exodus started with Obama....Highest recorded numbers (at that time).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Time for Canada to build that wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, pgrahmm said: The exodus started with Obama....Highest recorded numbers (at that time).... Well someone got their facts right for once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 They forgot to tell you that it is 20% liberal women and 13% liberal men... Now take a good look who wrote the story... Liberal newspaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 A wall works just as well to make you a captive as it does to keep out intruders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said: Time for Canada to build that wall! No need, just have to pile up all the snow at the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said: Time for Canada to build that wall! Why would anyone wish to leave that great, ever winning nation to go and live in a socialist nightmare with effective universal healthcare, no ambition to police the world, politicians with a passing acquaintance with the truth, a head of government who is actually elected by the people (through a parliament) rather than by an electoral college which apparently discounts the popular vote, and a head of state who communicates other than by frantic tweets? About the only thing going for the place is that they have a sense of humour, and can make a decent cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: Seems the Greatest country on earths title seems to be slipping. Cant say I blame them. I wouldn't want to live somewhere with no universal health care, indiscriminate shootings all the time and a leader such as they have right now, just to scratch the surface of the issues. LOL. If the US is so bad, why are caravans of people walking from central America to try and get in? I don't think they are having any problems giving out green cards either. This is just another anti Trump journo writing a pointless piece of not much at all to try and get their anti Trump bias out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, JAG said: politicians with a passing acquaintance with the truth I was thinking you were onto something till you wrote that :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, khwaibah said: Don't let the door hit your butt.???? The people who want out often are the most creative or wealthiest. They relocate for tax and estate planning purposes. Consider the implications of the loss of their taxes on your social security and medicare benefits, on military budgets etc.. Someone has to pay for your benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. If the US is so bad, why are caravans of people walking from central America to try and get in? I don't think they are having any problems giving out green cards either. This is just another anti Trump journo writing a pointless piece of not much at all to try and get their anti Trump bias out there. the difference is that the people wanting in are unskilled, uneducated and according to Trump, violent filth. Whereas, the ones who want out are educated, higher income, and contribute to society. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. If the US is so bad, why are caravans of people walking from central America to try and get in? A blind man could see it with his cane. People, no matter where they are, want to move to what they see as a better place. 20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: This is just another anti Trump journo writing a pointless piece of not much at all to try and get their anti Trump bias out there. In other words... If you could read more than the headline, you'd see that this is a Gallup poll that many news outlets are reporting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Well hell, I love the USA and still want to be somewhere else. Except Canada and France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srinivas Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 well they'll all be learning about legal vs illegal immigration now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshs Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: I wouldn't want to live somewhere with no universal health care, indiscriminate shootings all the time and a leader such as they have right now, just to scratch the surface of the issues. No, not you but 11 million to 30 million have all that and like to call themselves "undocumented". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I seem to recall lots of Hollywood types and limousine liberals threatening to leave the US if Trump won the election. Sadly, none of them have followed up on their promises. Miley Cyrus and Amy Schumer and their friends are still enjoying the benefits of living in the country. Perhaps they got a glimpse of the tax rates they would pay elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The Chinese want to have their babies born in US for some reason, perhaps they've watched Happy Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, geriatrickid said: The people who want out often are the most creative or wealthiest. They relocate for tax and estate planning purposes. Consider the implications of the loss of their taxes on your social security and medicare benefits, on military budgets etc.. Someone has to pay for your benefits. Yes, but they have to renounce their US citizenship in order to not pay tax? Also, in my younger years in the UK I worked & paid taxes (probably about 1/3 of my income), even though I was on low wages. During that time I got nothing from the gvt and didn't use/need healthcare at all. (I had no family or kids either). How is it that wealthier people were necessarily subsidising me through their taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I seem to recall lots of Hollywood types and limousine liberals threatening to leave the US if Trump won the election. Sadly, none of them have followed up on their promises. Miley Cyrus and Amy Schumer and their friends are still enjoying the benefits of living in the country. Perhaps they got a glimpse of the tax rates they would pay elsewhere... I too have been waiting for these "celebrities" to go join the drama teacher up north. They really have a very slim grip on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. If the US is so bad, why are caravans of people walking from central America to try and get in? I don't think they are having any problems giving out green cards either. This is just another anti Trump journo writing a pointless piece of not much at all to try and get their anti Trump bias out there. Because it's better than what they have now? I remember when South Africa used to justify its system by saying that Africans from elsewhere were migrating to South Africa for the jobs. Go Apartheid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 A quick look at European/Scandanavian style taxation would have most Americans, particularly those even moderately well off, squealing in indignation. In places like Sweden, the top tax bracket is 60%, but it kicks in when your income is just 1.2 times the national average! For Americans, this would be somewhere around $60,000 a year putting you in the top bracket. They also have Value Added Taxes and luxury taxes that far outstrip conventional state sales taxes- VAT standard in Sweden is 25% on most goods and services. Plus gasoline is about $7 per gallon. Same for a pack of cigarettes. People need to think before making such rash pronouncements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: A quick look at European/Scandanavian style taxation would have most Americans, particularly those even moderately well off, squealing in indignation. In places like Sweden, the top tax bracket is 60%, but it kicks in when your income is just 1.2 times the national average! For Americans, this would be somewhere around $60,000 a year putting you in the top bracket. They also have Value Added Taxes and luxury taxes that far outstrip conventional state sales taxes- VAT standard in Sweden is 25% on most goods and services. Plus gasoline is about $7 per gallon. Same for a pack of cigarettes. People need to think before making such rash pronouncements. It's even worse. Medical care is free, primary education is excellent and higher education is free or very inexpensive. In some parts of Scandinavia they even give University students living stipends. What a nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, khwaibah said: Don't let the door hit your butt.???? Thank you. What an enlightened thinking process you have going there. After 41 years teaching in the U.S., I cannot afford a working middle class retirement in my own country. I'm not alone, increasing numbers of Europeans, North Americans, Aussies and Kiwis of the working middle class find they can have a better retirement elsewhere. Just you keep working and sending me your Social Security payments....suck it up snowflake!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I wonder how many are moving to China??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Nyezhov said: Well hell, I love the USA and still want to be somewhere else. Except Canada and France. It's not that you love America less, it's just that you love Thailand more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 58 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I seem to recall lots of Hollywood types and limousine liberals threatening to leave the US if Trump won the election. Sadly, none of them have followed up on their promises. Miley Cyrus and Amy Schumer and their friends are still enjoying the benefits of living in the country. Perhaps they got a glimpse of the tax rates they would pay elsewhere... Try to think...its not the tax rate... it is what you get in return for the taxes paid...I get endless warfare...oh, and now Individual #1 wants me to pay for a 2000 mile long wall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: A quick look at European/Scandanavian style taxation would have most Americans, particularly those even moderately well off, squealing in indignation. In places like Sweden, the top tax bracket is 60%, but it kicks in when your income is just 1.2 times the national average! For Americans, this would be somewhere around $60,000 a year putting you in the top bracket. They also have Value Added Taxes and luxury taxes that far outstrip conventional state sales taxes- VAT standard in Sweden is 25% on most goods and services. Plus gasoline is about $7 per gallon. Same for a pack of cigarettes. People need to think before making such rash pronouncements. And in return? I was just listening to a BBC report on how the replacement population growth is not goint to be able to sustain the aging population. So...what does a thinking country do to encourage having children? Make childcare available, allow ne Mother's to stay home with the new children (the research is clear as to the other development benefits)...Meanwhile an unthinking country, such as my own penalizes women for having a job and a family...so? So, fewer children, greater need to import labor amid the crying over cultural changes....Ignorance is not bliss in my country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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