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BANGKOK 19 January 2019 07:48
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Brexit: Germany says not time to discuss Article 50 extension

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9 minutes ago, Libai said:

What do you mean by 'Simples'?  Your mail is not True. 39% of UK exports (and falling) go via the European ports with a large percentage upto 6% going on in transit.  The UK trade mainly with the northern countries, very little with the southern countries who are heavily in debt or under management by EU managers.   Look at this way the total % of Exports are  in the region of 10% of UK GDP.  Consequently exports to the EU are important but are less than 4% of the total.  Maths eh? 

I did say "hypothetically". Insert your own figures into the equation and the answer comes out the same. The UK will lose out more than any individual European country.

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2 hours ago, Spidey said:

As Barnier & Co. held all the cards and we held none, it was clear, even before the vote, that they were going to make it as onerous as possible for us to leave the EU, as punishment for having the temerity to leave and as a salutary warning to any other country that may be thinking of leaving.

 

The British negotiators were on a hiding to nothing. What tools did they have to negotiate with?

Junker, Barnier & Tusk Ltd??

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15 hours ago, Spidey said:

No. The culprits are the knobs who voted leave. From the beginning, we were always going to end up in this mess no matter who did the negotiating on the British side.

 

Did you really think that the rest of the EU membership were going to let us leave quietly and amicably?

Knobs back at ya. May's "deal" has shown that there have obviously been no serious "negotiations" throughout. 

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4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Knobs back at ya. May's "deal" has shown that there have obviously been no serious "negotiations" throughout. 

Barnier seemed serious. Davis? Nah, not so much...

 

Clearly there have been serious negotiations (with Olly Robbins though). That you do not like the result is something entirely different.

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14 hours ago, bomber said:

leave voters know very little bout maths,

you may be correct , but perhaps you could show us, in simple words and figures, exactly what both Leaving and Remaining means./ I;m sure you, as a remainer, know exactly what you voted for down to the last pound spend due to your maths knowledge, and i'm sure not just us on TV, but even the MPs would be interesting in your figures, and how you arrived at them. Its ok, we can wait a little while while you do your maths and show us poor deluded people where we went wrong. Please include all net gains and losses, time scales for these, not just in monetary values, but in trading, laws, immigration and anything else that the EU has rights over us for

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4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Clearly Davis was not allowed to attempt any serious negotiations - that's why he quit - or did you miss that?

He quit because he was ill-prepared and made demands that the EU found laughable.

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Just now, nauseus said:

Clearly Davis was not allowed to attempt any serious negotiations - that's why he quit - or did you miss that?

OK, if you think so but perhaps incompetence played a role as well.

 

Remains the fact that the EU were dedicated to have serious negotiations, the UK apparently not.

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2 minutes ago, whatsupdoc said:

OK, if you think so but perhaps incompetence played a role as well.

 

Remains the fact that the EU were dedicated to have serious negotiations, the UK apparently not.

I agree with the last bit (of the last bit). But why is that then?

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5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

He quit because he was ill-prepared and made demands that the EU found laughable.

That comment is what is laughable.

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16 hours ago, Spidey said:

No. The culprits are the knobs who voted leave.

I am one of those knobs and proud of it. The non-knobs lost. It's the non-knob politicians in parliament making the trouble for the knobs by trying to keep us half in with their half non-knobed agenda.

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I agree with the last bit (of the last bit). But why is that then?

I am not British and why the UK has the urge to harm itself by means of Brexit is completely beyond my comprehension. 

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14 hours ago, bomber said:

after brexit BMW will close its oxford plant and move to eastern europe as will nissan,toyota,jaguar all because of brexit,pretty sickening isnt it,100,000+ good jobs gone,one good thing the slovaks and pole fruit and veg pickers in lincolnshire might have to return home to build these cars,now thats what brexit was all about 😀 50000 quality low paid  jobs created.

Visions of rats leaving a sinking ship ? does that mean we get our country back , lessen the burden on our hospitals , housing , indigenous employment and education , then bring it on . The UK will come out on top because Brits are being proactive and  have had enough of EU ways . UK is booming with unemployment at 4% , 3rd lowest in Europe . Big investments by hi tech companies right now .

TM Brexit plan is a bit like a couple getting divorced and the when the  "who gets what is sorted " there is one proviso that the ex husband gets to have intercourse a couple of times a week with the ex wife free of charge and no strings .

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