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BANGKOK 22 February 2019 02:35
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Chiang Mai check stops

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3 hours ago, Loaded said:

Volunteering for the most corrupt police force in the world isn't something to be proud of imo especially as the whole point of those check points is to take cash illegally from tourists and members of the public.

 

Would please explain how paying fines for violation of Thai laws is illegal?

If you aren't breaking any laws, you pay nothing.

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15 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

 

Would please explain how paying fines for violation of Thai laws is illegal?

If you aren't breaking any laws, you pay nothing.

Come on, you aren't that dumb. You know that payments are usually unrecorded cash payment bribes going into pockets to avoid the legal process.

 

And you think that not breaking the law protects you being extorted for cash by representatives of the law!!!

 

I know you always jump to the defense of these volunteers but come on...

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A couple off weeks ago I was stopped by 4 policeman at a roadblock,all waering facemasks and sunglasses,for not having my helmet(yes I know)showing a coloured laminated paper with fines 1000(thousend baht) for no helmet,1000 baht for no license enz.I did tell them i have no money with me and will pay at the  policestation,they took my driverslicense an I did pay at the station 400 baht!!!!

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On 1/18/2019 at 11:02 AM, neeray said:

Personally, I would like to see them out on the roads, in-town, out-of-town catching the maniacs who conceivably cause the horrific accidents. We all see drivers do a host of dangerous maneuvers on a daily basis. Do some proactive policing, don't just operate multi-checkpoints in the city where most regular drivers know they are and can avoid. Try being a real traffic cop for a change.

That is a common naive comment from those who have no clue how traffic enforcement works.

Gee, it would be great if they could just pick the maniac drivers out of a bunch of cars driving down the road

Traffic cops do not just ride around wasting their time looking for this and that.

Like it or not It is all about revenue.  Here and in every city in the world.

They set up in areas that are easy tickets.  Speed traps, posted signs, etc.

And you would be surprised how many tickets they write here in those ¨well known¨ areas.

I think the check points are good.  Would like to see more of them. 

The problem here is education and engineering and management of the roadways.

 

 

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On 1/18/2019 at 2:38 PM, dvg said:

A couple off weeks ago I was stopped by 4 policeman at a roadblock,all waering facemasks and sunglasses,for not having my helmet(yes I know)showing a coloured laminated paper with fines 1000(thousend baht) for no helmet,1000 baht for no license enz.I did tell them i have no money with me and will pay at the  policestation,they took my driverslicense an I did pay at the station 400 baht!!!!

 

I dont mind paying 200baht cash for no helmet if the policeman is polite and chatty but that sort of tourist trap behaviuor is along the lines of a hot girl who knows it at Zoes asking for 10,000baht

 

Its just not on

 

 

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"... getting receipts for their payments..."

 

Um...yes, but not to put too fine a point on it, I am not at all confident that a handwritten piece of paper directly relates to monies actually deposited in the police fines bank account. 

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On 1/18/2019 at 11:02 AM, neeray said:

Personally, I would like to see them out on the roads, in-town, out-of-town catching the maniacs who conceivably cause the horrific accidents.

 

13 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

That is a common naive comment from those who have no clue how traffic enforcement works.

 

 

I'm sure there have been more absurd comments made in TV over the years, but in my 13 years as a member, I don't remember any...

 

In the US, if you drive like a maniac, you get taken off the roads quickly, and kept off the roads. This happens because police are actively stopping them and the courts are removing them. That's how good policing works; mobile police units ON the roads, stopping the illegal driving behavior where and when it happens. It's called "Police Presence," and it's used in areas that wish to reduce traffic accidents. Why is it used? Well, because having a policeman standing on a street stopping any and every driver and giving citations for not having helmets or an IDP doesn't solve the problem of drivers who run red lights, make illegal lane changes, stop or pass on blind curves, etc., etc.

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I don't think I have ever seen a policeman stop anyone for a moving violation. Here or anywhere in Asia. 

It's always the "fish in a barrel" shoot. 

In fact, the static "traps" of cameras at intersections seem to make no difference whatsoever regarding running red lights. 

But thankfully, we can't buy alcohol in major shops during 2pm to 5pm. That certainly cuts down on drunk driving to an almost infinite degree....   >..<

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On 1/10/2019 at 10:47 AM, lust said:

What a sad life for these people that could never be a police officer in their own country so they come here in hopes of acceptance.. 

The guy is married to a Thai and the guy is entitled to the lifestyle of Thailand the same as any other foreigner. Including doing legal work of his choice. He is attached to the police station in the middle of the old city and has been here for quite a number. You find he speaks fluent Thai and I found that he makes things easier to sort out when I visited the city police station. Finally, when he is around, no Thai copper will ask for tea money.

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Nothing new and relatively easy to avoid:
1) On the corner on huay kaew road (kad sun keaw mall).
2) At the intersection with MAYA Mall towards Doi Suthep (the most stupid one as it is after the traffic lights).
3) Thapae gate (inner moat) = Most famous and daily now it seems.
4) Elsewhere around old city but easy to spot on distance, sometimes corner moat of the park or outside where you turn left to the airport.

Most times they are gone by 2-3PM (3PM is my safe time). They caught me 3 times only last year but each time it was my own mistake for ignoring above.
I told the Australian guy to piss off (he threatened to fine me double and I explained he can't).

It is a big money machine focused on tourists who can't be legal, also immigration says you need a 2 month valid entry / visa to get the paper for the driving license making it virtually impossible for tourists to be legal in time. 

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Tourist can arrive with IDP and be legal, can't they?


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