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BANGKOK 19 January 2019 07:31
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Trump stops short of emergency declaration in border wall fight

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3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I take it you aren't American, never lived anywhere near the border, so your opinion is pretty much meaningless.

I take it you don’t live near the border, as the politicians, Democrat and Republican, responsible for border security there, don’t want the wall either. 

 

US shutdown: Border politicians oppose Trump's wall http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46815569

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10 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Actually the pledge was Mexico would pay for his wall. 

Obama built it originally. Both sides lie all the time. The thing is Trump is so trollish he distracts from what is really actually happening. Schumer is basically equally abrasive. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

This is jingoism of the worst sort. Those Americans who did fight and die overseas, however bravely and selflessly, did not go fight to protect Americans’ “security” but because they were sent to fight in those places. “Security” had nothing to do with it -- most of America’s war-making is imperial, from the Barbary Coast to the Philippines to Vietnam and Iraq. And, given the few comments he’s made on the topic, I don’t think Trump would disagree with that statement.

Can I ask if you are American, since this distinction seems to be so important in this exchange.

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37 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

This happened in Europe already. It wasn't a crisis until it was and then it was too late. 

European immigration crisis? What European immigration crisis?

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3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I take it you aren't American, never lived anywhere near the border, so your opinion is pretty much meaningless.

I am not American but I lived and worked there for about 12 years, paid my taxes and still have property in Houston. Not sure if that qualifies me to post my opinion but I think the following makes any demand for a wall pretty much meaningless. Data courtesy of US Customs and Border Protection.

 

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And from statistics compiled by the Department of Homeland Paranoia Security.

 

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Either you are in favor of open borders unlimited immigration or you are not. I am in favor of controlling immigration and tourist into the USA. Hating Trump is a different item. 

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34 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

Either you are in favor of open borders unlimited immigration or you are not. I am in favor of controlling immigration and tourist into the USA. Hating Trump is a different item. 

US borders are so open that would-be illegal immigrants pay $10,000 for guides to get them past the non-existent barriers. Do you have any use for facts at all?

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