rooster59 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Leeds manager Bielsa admits sending spy to Derby FILE PHOTO: Soccer Football - FA Cup Third Round - Queens Park Rangers v Leeds United - Loftus Road, London, Britain - January 6, 2019 Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa Action Images/Paul Childs (Reuters) - Leeds United manager Marcelo Bielsa has admitted sending a member of his coaching staff to spy on Derby County ahead of their Championship (second-tier) match on Friday. Derby said earlier that local police had spoken to a person acting suspiciously outside their training ground on Thursday. "It's true there was someone from Leeds United. I am responsible for this incident," former Argentina manager Bielsa told Sky Sports before the game at Elland Road. "Yesterday I talked to (Derby manager) Frank Lampard and he told me that for him I didn't respect the fair play rules. I have a different point of view on it but the important thing is what Frank Lampard and Derby County think. "I am the only (one) responsible for it because I didn't ask for the permission of Leeds United to do that. Without trying to find a justification, I've been using this kind of practice since the qualifications for the World Cup with Argentina. This is not illegal. "For some people it's the wrong thing to do and for other people it's not the wrong thing to do," added the Argentine who managed his country's national team from 1998-2004. Lampard was critical of Bielsa's actions. "At least on a sportsman's level it's bad in my opinion," he said. "If we're going to start talking about culturally I did it somewhere else and it was fine then that doesn't work for me because I don't believe it is fine on that level," the former England and Chelsea midfielder added. "It's disrupted our build-up to this game." Lampard said someone was also spotted watching his team training before they played Leeds in August. "We had somebody the day before our first game against them which we lost 4-1," he said. "Now Leeds can beat you 4-1 -- they're a fantastic team -- but we had someone in the bushes that day." Leeds beat Derby 2-0 to extend their lead at the top of the standings to five points, 11 ahead of their sixth-placed opponents. NO COMPLAINT Derby said they were in discussion with Leeds club officials in relation to the incident. A spokesman for the English Football League said: "It is, of course, up to Derby County as to how they progress this matter but as of yet we have received no complaint or contact from the Club." Tottenham Hotspur's Argentine manager Mauricio Pochettino, who played under Bielsa for Espanyol and the national team, was asked whether he would consider spying on opponents. "I played for him, I learned a lot from him, the good and the not so good," Pochettino told reporters ahead of Sunday's Premier League clash with Manchester United. Pochettino said he would not adopt similar tactics to prepare for the United game. "No, no, but it's nothing wrong to try to find a bit more information about what the opposition is doing. It used to happen in Argentina, not only Marcelo. "Many managers in Argentina used to send people to watch the training sessions. Here it's maybe a little bit weird but in Argentina it happened. It's not a big deal what happened." -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-01-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It worked, they won. A heinous crime though heads should roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucysDad Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Smart move.....also evidences desire to win. It’s not cricket though, so a slap on the wrist is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Personally i can't see what the big deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 No big deal, I don't think it would have bothered Cloughie when he managed Derby. White Rose, White Rose. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, carmine said: Personally i can't see what the big deal is. Me neither. TBH I thought everyone would be doing it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, mrbojangles said: Me neither. TBH I thought everyone would be doing it anyway Ha, thats what i was thinking too!! To my mind, its being professional. Theres no cheating. Why are the journalists shaking their heads in dismay? I think the likes of John Cross and Henry Winter are being very naive. It's not like he's been bugging the dressing room to listen to team talks and tactics!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mrbojangles said: Me neither. TBH I thought everyone would be doing it anyway same as sending people to watch games of upcoming opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The damned United " get all your champions medal's and cup medals,and throw them in the bin,because you one them by cheating" Martin Sheen as Brain clough at the first day of training at Leeds,43 days later he was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, sandrabbit said: same as sending people to watch games of upcoming opponents. Depends if it is an open or closed training. Hiding in the bushes is a good indication he was not meant to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think this spying business is as much about getting under the opposition's skin as anything else. Messing with their heads. <deleted> with them in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrygoat Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Next Week ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 As a Leeds fan I can only say .....MOT !!We didn’t get the nickname Dirty Leeds for nothing [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: As a Leeds fan I can only say .....MOT !! We didn’t get the nickname Dirty Leeds for nothing One of the last matches I went to was when Leeds played Barcelona in the European Cup 1975, Cruff played for Barcelona and Joe Jordan scored a goal, unfortunately it was with his hand. Bielsa seems to be doing something right. Super Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I'm guessing you may have to like Leeds to enjoy this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Bielsa admits to spying on all of their opponents:- https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/11609032/leeds-boss-marcelo-bielsa-admits-he-spied-on-all-opponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, mrbojangles said: Bielsa admits to spying on all of their opponents:- https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/11609032/leeds-boss-marcelo-bielsa-admits-he-spied-on-all-opponents Incredible video about Bielsa's obsessive preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 This is fantastic, I love this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 hours ago, BangrakBob said: This is fantastic, I love this guy Just one of the reasons he is a legendary manager. It appears that what some may refer to as Spygate, or cheating is another version of due diligence. Either, you don't count the likes of Guardiola, Sampaoli and Pochettino as your disciples unless you are a bit special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Saw this on the Brighton forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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