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BANGKOK 17 February 2019 14:19
guzzi850m2

Triumph Street twin 2019- Honda CB650R?

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I think the time has come to sell my Versys650 mk3, just need something else/new.

 

I have sort of shortlisted above bikes, the classic new Triumph Street twin and the new Honda CB650R.

 

Huge differences in the 2 bikes, one is for relaxed rides with 80Nm toque, the other one; cafe racer styled and 95HP, hmm.

 

About 100K baht differences in price in favor of the Honda.

 

I tried the new Street Twin at Watchara Marine Pattaya last Saturday but only on their land around the shop as I was out with my family in the truck and didn't have any bike gear with me. I only managed getting into 2nd gear very briefly, man 1st gear is looong. You can't judge a bike based on that but to my surprise; I was told, I can take it out for a spin if I bring my bike gear, so will do a proper test ride sometime this week, which I look very much forward to. 

 

Saw the Honda at Big Wing, also a somewhat nice looking but not in same liege as the Street Twin in my opinion, the Street Twin is a true looker.

 

Sadly Big Wing is under the umbrella of Mityon that sits heavy on the bike/scooter market in Pattaya and I doubt a test ride is forthcoming since they are a greedy bunch but I will go and ask, also later this week.

If I can't do a test ride, I won't be buying.

My big bike is only a toy for me nowadays, don't ride much and if I see rain clouds around, I take the truck. Used to be a real biker, toured EU and Australia when I was young. On my V I only managed 1 touring trip to Koh Chang, which I actually enjoyed but doing 1000km a day as I did a couple of times in Aus is definitely over.

 

Not interested in the new R.E. twin, no thanks.

 

Looking forward getting some inputs from fellow big bikers.

 

 

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I’m pining for a new 900 Scrambler. Haven’t yet seen the Honda in the flesh so I’ll resist suggesting the ‘Trumpet’ is better.


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Well it's very hard comparing the 2 bikes since they are so different.

 

There is a Youtube video about the CB650r eisfeld posted in another topic (see below).

 

The tester is over the moon with it, smooth, slipper coupling, lovely sound.

 

I like gunning my bikes and I don't ride like an old man, love the thrill of the acceleration but I am extremely careful when riding and normally quickly go down in speed again.

 

I suspect the Honda is much more fun to ride than the Triumph which is a bummer for me. 

 

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Guzzi,

 

There is a Honda dealer in Bangkok, or more specifically Nontaruri? where there is a farang sales/service guy.

They used to sponsor a forum section here. Might be worth a trip there?

 

Sumet cycle but My grey cells are working overtime to come up with the guys name but  nothing yet...Aha sumetcycle@hotmail.com ....Brian

 

Location i can find easily for you.

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What's the question exactly?

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Thanks but just visiting Big Wing again today and they told me that they will be getting a test bike later on.

Guzzi,
 
There is a Honda dealer in Bangkok, or more specifically Nontaruri? where there is a farang sales/service guy.
They used to sponsor a forum section here. Might be worth a trip there?
 
Sumet cycle but My grey cells are working overtime to come up with the guys name but  nothing yet...Aha sumetcycle@hotmail.com ....Brian
 
Location i can find easily for you.


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Thoughts about pros and cons on the 2 bikes.
Anyway I will test ride both of them and then make up my mind.
Also waiting for more tests to surface online. Both bikes are just being launched now hence not much now.
I wonder how much service is on the Triumphs?

What's the question exactly?


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I seem to have a love hate relationship with my versys ,love comfortable seating position, luggage rack ,reliability hate the bloody engine and gearbox it’s like a tractor,,,,,,,,other options for me cb650, ducati hypermotard ,versys 1000 or Africa twin the last 2 costing a bit more than I want to spend...lol

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5 minutes ago, taninthai said:

Africa twin

The Thai version has a 6cm shortened suspension, so it's not really an adventure bike here in Thailand, more a bit funny looking street bike.

 

6 minutes ago, taninthai said:

ducati hypermotard

This also has a shortened suspension in Thailand, might be too small for you as Farang, somebody once reported here on Thai visa how he changed the suspension to the European version, cost him quite a bit.

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9 minutes ago, jackdd said:

The Thai version has a 6cm shortened suspension, so it's not really an adventure bike here in Thailand, more a bit funny looking street bike.

 

This also has a shortened suspension in Thailand, might be too small for you as Farang, somebody once reported here on Thai visa how he changed the suspension to the European version, cost him quite a bit.

Yep this is the problem with both these bikes ,no way would I buy the shortened version ,can find full height versions if you look around a bit.

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RE: the test ride.

Look.

We all know that it will ride/perform just fine.

So what is the point really ?

?

Just buy the damn thing.

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2 hours ago, papa al said:

RE: the test ride.

Look.

We all know that it will ride/perform just fine.

So what is the point really ?

?

Just buy the damn thing.

Have to totally disagree with that. I've testridden bikes that I ended up not liking because of that. The Africa Twin Adventure Sports is the most recent example. There's a world of a difference between the Street Twin and the CB650R. Both in terms of ergonomics as well as engine characteristics. Sure both wont have serious flaws for Guzzi but since this comes down to his own preferences, I think a testride is very important.

 

 

Guzzi, if you don't ride so much then service costs might not be such a big differentiator. But if you ride daily then the CB will be a lot cheaper in the long run. The Triumph of course has a timeless design which on top is very popular with Thais. The Honda while nice, will not be a looker like that. Now if you want a bit of performance then then Honda clearly wins it with 30 or so more HP. I've only ridden the previous CB650F for 1000km which should be very very similar. It handles well at slow as well as fast speeds. The only negative thing were some vibes in the mid of the rev range but newer models have rubber mounted handle bars etc. The Triumph is way lower and very easy for a female to ride if your wife also would like to take it for a spin. Though it does weigh quite a bit more. It's really tough.

 

Happy to hear that you'll be able to take both for a spin. Please report back on how you felt on both.

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