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4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 If you believe that I am trolling, and therefore breaking the forum rules, you know where the 'report post' button is. But maybe you've already tried that and failed?

 

Having a second referendum on whether to accept whatever deal is agreed, leaving with no deal or cancelling the whole thing altogether is allowing the people their democratic say on one of the most important decisions this country will make. Referenda are not common in this country, that we had one at all in 2016 set the precedent; or actually the 1975 one did.

 

As I said, it is obvious why you don't want to allow the people that democratic say; you are scared that you will lose!

 

The truth is if you were confident of winning you would have no objections to a referendum which you believed would only confirm your chosen path.

 

You can deny that truth as much as you like, but you are convincing no one; least of all yourself.

He convinced me. Minus 1 for your team. ➖1️⃣

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15 minutes ago, rixalex said:

Yes you are trolling, but no, i haven't reported you. Sorry to disappoint.

'Bercowing😞

 

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On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 3:45 PM, nauseus said:

He convinced me. Minus 1 for your team. ➖1️⃣

Looks like two of you agree with him as your post was liked by all of one person!

 

So that's three of you who think denial is just a river in Africa.

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On ‎2‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 7:15 AM, rixalex said:

"Thank you rixalex (and others) for answering my question. The reason why I disagree with you on the point you made that all future referendums will be undermined and therefore pointless, if we don't enact the 2016 vote first, before having another referendum, is I think that......"

 

Incapable of answering then it is.

 

Already answered, several times; but you choose to ignore it.

 

I will repeat, although I expect you will ignore the answer agai8n.

 

The time to rectify a mistake is before the consequences become too great to rectify; particularly when the margin was so small..

 

Leaving the EU is the biggest mistake the UK will have made since Chamberlain waved that bit of paper at Croydon Aerodrome.

 

The difference between you and me is that I want to give the British people the chance to rectify the mistake; whether or not they take that chance is up to them.

 

You don't want to give them that chance and the reason is obvious. It's because deep down you are scared that they will seize the chance and vote by an overwhelming majority to cancel Article 50 and remain.

 

Of course, if the majority was to leave, with or without a deal, then I would accept that as this time the decision would be based upon all the facts, what would happen if we left with a deal, without a deal or if we remained.

 

Unlike last time when the Leave campaign concentrated on what bastards the EU were and was headed by people who had no idea what to do if they won!

 

N.B. The Remain campaign weren't much better; they should have concentrated more on the benefits of membership and less on what we would lose by leaving.

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On ‎2‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 7:12 AM, rixalex said:

Yes you are trolling, but no, i haven't reported you. Sorry to disappoint.

 I see, so you are simply falling back on the pathetic trolling accusation because you are confounded by my arguments and have no real response to them.

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23 hours ago, nauseus said:

Damn, I didn't know we were like counting!

Really?

 

So what did you mean by 

 

On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 3:45 PM, nauseus said:

He convinced me. Minus 1 for your team. ➖1️⃣

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36 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Really?

 

So what did you mean by 

 

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That was a score. Not a "like". You are confused as always. Back to bed.

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10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

That was a score. Not a "like". You are confused as always. Back to bed.

A score which you said we were not counting!

 

Yet again, you contradict yourself in a desperate attempt to repair one of your cock ups.

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22 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

A score which you said we were not counting!

 

Yet again, you contradict yourself in a desperate attempt to repair one of your cock ups.

Mirror mirror.

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On 2/11/2019 at 1:59 PM, rixalex said:

Since you don't see an issue with the wish of the people in 2016 being ignored, i have no reason to believe you would think any differently with any other vote that didn't go your way.

 

Just carry on ignoring the wish of the people until they agree with you.

 

I explicitly said to not ignore the wish of the people, the wish to change their decision from 2016. I think you or others were promoting the idea of ignoring their wish. 

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