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Brexit bedlam - May's EU divorce deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament

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1 hour ago, tebee said:

Something interesting here - M&S is closing stores in Leave voting areas, but opening them in strone remain areas. Not because of Brexit, but might it be those areas voted for Brexit because of economic decline and hopelessness. 

 

Change is needed, but the brexit they voted for will only make them worse off - I find this sad more than anything.  

 

 

You must surely know the reason?

 

Nice people shop at Marks & Sparks and Waitrose. The other people, who watch ITV, don't 🤗

 

Fits nicely with all the other correlations!

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5 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

never mind GBP,

baht has also improved against Norwegian oil dollars, not happy

 

Many here are concerned with the pound. Understandable.

 

Krone has been crappy for more than 4 years already.

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4 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

That is completely nonsense. There is already a contract. Easy to sign. 

Also there is a law for a full term 5 years job for May. So a new PM not possible. 

And if such polit-clowns as you mentioned would represent UK I have my doubts. 

The real drama is that from the beginning the govt lied to the people and were not willing to show the consequences of any kind of Brexit. 

So many Brits believed in a land of milk and honey. So do you. 

That you and millions of your kind risk the future of the young ones you never cared of. 

 

Nonsense back at ya. She's made a complete mess of everything since she's been in and is allowed to resign at any time. Anyone with a shred if honour left would do that now.  

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1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Or the EU. Think Airbus.

If it's not Airbus I'm not going!

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4 hours ago, bannork said:

Yes but 45,% of our exports go to the EU. It would be economic madness to damage that access.

And with the deficit as it is, even more madness from the EU's perspective.

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2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Nonsense back at ya. She's made a complete mess of everything since she's been in and is allowed to resign at any time. Anyone with a shred if honour left would do that now.  

True but she won't and anyway nobody is going to step up until after this fiasco is over.  The so called Brexit hardliners like Johnson and JRM have had ample opportunity to make a leadership challenge but they haven't got the guts.  They will back her again in the vote of no confidence today.  Spineless as always

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4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Nonsense back at ya. She's made a complete mess of everything since she's been in and is allowed to resign at any time. Anyone with a shred if honour left would do that now.  

Mrs May has a sense of duty, she will not walk away and leave the mess to someone else like Cameron did, I’m pretty sure about that. She will try to find a way through Parliament, a softer Brexit, or she will sanction a second vote. That’s why GBP strengthened yesterday. 

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9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Nonsense back at ya. She's made a complete mess of everything since she's been in and is allowed to resign at any time. Anyone with a shred if honour left would do that now.  

It was always the intention of the Conservative Dons to put her in place to take the can for Brexit. She won't leave until Brexit is concluded. Then she will leave. The Dons have already told her this. She knows her place. Just a dumb patsy.

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2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

And with the deficit as it is, even more madness from the EU's perspective.

But even greater madness from the UK in services- legal, financial and educational, where we earn a handsome profit from the EU. All at risk with no agreement by the end of March.

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1 hour ago, bomber said:

BJ was on TV last night more or less saying Mays deal just needed tweaking,farage then called it a shambles,these were the 2 big guns from the leave camp,both now some distance apart,neither knew what brexit was meant to be,2 crackpots,i wonder what tommy's version would look like

They weren't talking about the meaning of Brexit.

 

They were talking May's so-called "deal".

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1 hour ago, tebee said:

Something interesting here - M&S is closing stores in Leave voting areas, but opening them in strone remain areas. Not because of Brexit, but might it be those areas voted for Brexit because of economic decline and hopelessness. 

 

Change is needed, but the brexit they voted for will only make them worse off - I find this sad more than anything.  

 

 

Sutton Coldfield. This cannot be!

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13 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

True but she won't and anyway nobody is going to step up until after this fiasco is over.  The so called Brexit hardliners like Johnson and JRM have had ample opportunity to make a leadership challenge but they haven't got the guts.  They will back her again in the vote of no confidence today.  Spineless as always

They need someone to blame for not delivering "their" Brexit.

 

If they became leader, then they would indeed be blamed for not delivering it themselves, as it's probably near as dammit to impossible.   

 

Posturing for after-the-chaos glory !

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12 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexit doesn't have the votes in Parliament.

For there to be a hard brexit they don't need to vote.

 

In fact if they do nothing it will be a 'hard brexit' by default.

 

This is why they're all so busy trying to find some kind of deal.

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15 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

True but she won't and anyway nobody is going to step up until after this fiasco is over.  The so called Brexit hardliners like Johnson and JRM have had ample opportunity to make a leadership challenge but they haven't got the guts.  They will back her again in the vote of no confidence today.  Spineless as always

She has already survived the internal Tory no confidence challenge by your "hardliners". After this she is safe from her own for 12 months. Her government will probably scrape through the no confidence vote, today, as the Conservatives will do anything to keep Corbyn from No.10 and so actually unite. If she is going she has to quit herself.

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