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Brexit bedlam - May's EU divorce deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament


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1 hour ago, mshs said:

If the negotiators believe that they once ruled the waves and tamed a continent, they'd get the deal they want,  Sadly, such a person and persons do not exist today, as they have been made to take estrogen shots by the liberal media.

I have always thought if it's leave lets leave because the EU would never give the UK a good deal it would only encourage others who may consider leaving.

Just a waste of 2 years and playing remainer mind games IMO.

 

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3 hours ago, Antonymous said:

What an extraordinary leap of false logic!

 

Have the courage to say that NOW that the rotten deal presented by a Remainer PM has been voted down at last, parliament should follow the will of the people to leave the EU. Let's organise a controlled Brexit.

 

Here's a Plan:

 

A BETTER DEAL AND A BETTER FUTURE

 

 

 

An alternative written ministerial statement under the terms

 

of EUWA 2018 S13(4) 15 January 2019

 

 

 

Exiting the EU: the Government’s policy for EU withdrawal following the vote of the House of Commons on 15 January 2019.

 

 

 

http://2mbg6fgb1kl380gtk22pbxgw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/A-Better-Deal-and-a-Better-Future.pdf

 

Good, with interesting and enlightening references. Thanks.

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14 minutes ago, Snow Leopard said:

Bunch of idiots. The lot of them. Should be an interesting few days ahead.

Exactly.  It just goes on and bloody on as MPs continue kicking the can down the road in the hope that something will eventually happen that allows them to pretend that they are respecting the democratic referendum result - whilst being able to retain their seats and without completely destroying the (already little) respect they hold amongst the electorate....

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6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

What a ClusterF**k.

 

The UK is divided. Political parties are divided. The countries that make up the UK are divided. Parliament is divided. Business is divided. Civil Society is divided. Labour unions are divided. Academia is divided.

 

Yet, when the UK is divided in each and every sector, some say that that you MUST implement the most divisive public policy decision in 50+ years and/or go back and renegotiate with the EU. BTW, just why would the EU decide to re-negotiate? Why does anyone think the EU actually would give better terms? I wouldn't and can't think of any reason to think they would.

 

Never in my wildest thoughts could I have imagined a country would screw itself over so badly.

 

When a country is this divided, the only logical course of action is to keep the status quo and scrap the whole thing; perhaps, try again in 10 or 20 years. Sorry to the Brexit supporters, but your country is waaaaaay too divided to do this.

 

Have the courage to say that this can't be done now. Forcing an uncontrolled hard Brexit down the throats of an unwilling populace will only cause division and discord for generations.

 

 

And you think that abandoning Brexit will unite the country?  Somehow, I do not think so!

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8 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

One important feature of the most recent vote is that the Hard Brexiteers marched through the same voting lobby as Jeremy Corbyn. A marriage made in hell.

At least I can agree with that.

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6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

What a ClusterF**k.

 

The UK is divided. Political parties are divided. The countries that make up the UK are divided. Parliament is divided. Business is divided. Civil Society is divided. Labour unions are divided. Academia is divided.

 

Yet, when the UK is divided in each and every sector, some say that that you MUST implement the most divisive public policy decision in 50+ years and/or go back and renegotiate with the EU. BTW, just why would the EU decide to re-negotiate? Why does anyone think the EU actually would give better terms? I wouldn't and can't think of any reason to think they would.

 

Never in my wildest thoughts could I have imagined a country would screw itself over so badly.

 

When a country is this divided, the only logical course of action is to keep the status quo and scrap the whole thing; perhaps, try again in 10 or 20 years. Sorry to the Brexit supporters, but your country is waaaaaay too divided to do this.

 

Have the courage to say that this can't be done now. Forcing an uncontrolled hard Brexit down the throats of an unwilling populace will only cause division and discord for generations.

 

 

I think you will find that if there were to be another referendum the Brexit leavers would have an increased majority and that is from a recent BBC street survey where remainers changed their opinions after the bully tactics of the EU mob . This is a wonderful opportunity for the UK to be rid of the bureaucratic shackles of the unelected EU governance and get back our country . Why all this fear mongering ? trading will still continue within Europe and then globally .  The EU does not want the UK to leave as they are a big player and the level of bully tactics given by the EU was a warning to all the other 27 countries  .Without the contribution of the UK the EU will be in trouble and only today I read that Germany's growth has slowed down and just avoiding the recession marker . The pound is gaining on other currencies so we could be turning the corner .     

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41 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Demands? The UK Constitution obviously allows referenda - otherwise the referendum Act would not have been possible. The ruling mob seem to be those mostly occupying Westminster (under false pretences). 

 

It allows one.

 

But there is no Constitutional/Legal requirement to do anything other than "think about the results".

 

And then act as the Government/Parliament....."Westminster"........ sees fit.

 

Because the system puts them in charge.

 

So that everyone else can spend their time thinking about mortgages, football, pizzas and "Strictly".

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

You really don't understand why Britain evolved the Parliamentary Democracy system; or why the American Founding Fathers wisely chose a Republic representative system as opposed to a simple absolute democracy system do you?

 

If you did, you'd understand why the Brexit Referendum was only advisory and why the spineless politicians of all sides have avoided their duty and responsibilities so far.

And here we have the top ten remainer sayings.

 

At number one, The Brexit Referendum was only Advisory.

At number two, Democracy didn't end on the 21st of June 2016.

At number three, All brexiteers are Racists and Xenophobes.

At number four, Brexiteers didn't know what they were voting for.

At number five, Soft/Hard Brexit

At number six, It was written on the side of a bus. (Many peoples favourite I'm sure)

Number seven, Nigel Farage said it was unfinished business.

Number eight, Cliff Edge.

Number nine, Regrexit.

Number ten, Borax to Brexit.

 

Awright pop pickers, not arf.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

The brexit nonsense has cost me personally estimated 100,000 pounds of lost Value on assets. The UK can push their brexit in their own back, where it is dark.

Estimated? You don't know exactly?

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6 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

It allows one.

 

But there is no Constitutional/Legal requirement to do anything other than "think about the results".

 

And then act as the Government/Parliament....."Westminster"........ sees fit.

 

Because the system puts them in charge.

 

So that everyone else can spend their time thinking about mortgages, football, pizzas and "Strictly".

 

 

 

 

 

Ballroom.

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33 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

And you think that abandoning Brexit will unite the country?  Somehow, I do not think so!

 

You mean re-unite it after being shattered by Camerons Folly?

 

It was him that took us into "uncharted waters"

 

Not since Charles the First raised his standard at Nottingham has anyone created such a disturbance among the good people of the realm.

 

 

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