Popular Post Davide80 Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Good morning to thaivisa. This is my first post and maybe will be the last: i will not write a friend of mine or other excuses: its me: 16 years overstay and know will have the opportunity to back forever in my country. So what will be the scenario? I am in Chang Mai. I have the enough funds now( thanks to some people) for pay my overstay fine and ticket for Belgium. Leave from Chang Mai to bkk by plane, by bus? Once at Bangkok airport will recive just the ban and pay the fine? I will aspect inflammatory comments, but is correct: i broke the law for some specific reasons and is correct you point the finger on me. Thanks if anyone can help me in this. 11 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Will there be informed posts? Who in the forum could have experience, from mates? Move around as little as possible right now. Take no risk to run into trouble of any kind. Book a flight from Chiang Mai to Suvarnabhumi (NOT Don Mueang). Don't use land transport/bus etc. Direct transport (taxi or private) to Chiang Mai airport. The flight to Suvarnabhumi at least half a day or better a full day before the flight to Belgium. Money and ticket to Belgium at hand. Turn in to airport immigration office. Be prepared to be kept in detention cell until flight departure. Good luck. Edited January 17, 2019 by KhunBENQ 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Good luck, let us know how it goes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JackThompson Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davide80 said: will have the opportunity to back forever in my country. No - just not staying Thailand - for a long time into the future. If it were me, I'd make my flight to Kuala Lumpur Malaysia. Laos air has been reported as not allowing over-stayers to board, and Cambodia has been reported as not too friendly about them recently. But no problems reported for over-stayers going to Malaysia. And even if there were a problem there, you could fall-back to a flight to your passport-country, if a problem arose. I would also fly direct to Kuala Lumpur from Chiang Mai - not take a flight to Bangkok first. That way, you turn yourself into airport-immigration in Chiang Mai, pay overstay there, board the plane - and DONE. Agree with others, take a taxi direct to the airport. Do not take any risk of being caught before going to the airport, or you have to go through IDC - not fun. After you got to Malaysia, you could get a new passport while there from your Embassy - which would get rid of the long-overstay stamp - then maybe go to live in Cambodia or Vietnam. Unless you actually want to live in Belgium, now, of course. Edited January 17, 2019 by JackThompson 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 I would get a flight where you clear immigration in Chiang Mai and then just transit through Bangkok. If you book a flight from Chiang Mai to BKK and then BKK to somewhere else, you might be unlucky and somebody from CNX maybe informs BKK about you. In Theory it should be as simple as you go to the airport and after checking in when you have to pass immigration you just skip the queue and inform an officer there that you are on overstay. Then you pay 20k THB fine, get the stamp that you are banned, maybe you have to sign anything, and then you should be free to go to your flight. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lastminutebozo Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Wow, good luck dude. Let us know what happens if you make it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Metapod Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just out of curiosity, why did you not do this before the bans came into effect? Was it a matter of saving up 20k thb? Also, what were you doing here for 16 years. Not judging, just interested. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TSF Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 I have no experience with this matter, but I agree with above posters who say fly CM to KL. Sort your overstay at CM and get out of Thailand. No sense is dealing with 2 Thailand airports. From KL flight home. And +1 if you want to live in SEA again, go to Cambodia or Nam. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loaded Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Do you have a valid passport?16 years overstay suggests you may not have renewed this as well. If no valid passport, I imagine leaving becomes a lot more complicated.Sent from my CPH1701 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 I met a Swedish chap in Pattaya in 2008. He had overstayed (sort of) for a number of years. When his passport was OK, he went across to Laos, at Nong Khai, and got a stamp out. Then paid to be rowed across the river, back to Thailand. According to the Thai, authorities, he is not in the country. He thought it better than years of overstay fines. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The main problem here could be your passport, if it's expired. Not easy to avoid IDC if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalnobhead Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, balo said: The main problem here could be your passport, if it's expired. Not easy to avoid IDC if that is the case. That's crap along with all the other nonsense you hear here like 'you will need to wait a few days till they go through the archives somewhere in bangkok and find your original arrival date and card etc..' - source a friend with 10 year overstay - lost and well expired passport (no details remember) - no idea of arrival date just month and year. Make an appointment and go to your embassy in bangkok and get the necessary travel documentation and advice, the most difficult part of this is probably getting into the embassy grounds with no valid ID, hopefully you have a considerate guard that it can be explained to - take a thai. When ready to leave turn up at the airport early as possible (so be the first in checkin line) they like to play the game of making you wait at the overstay counter until it appears the gate is going close and your screwed, but you'll be fine. Edited January 17, 2019 by digitalnobhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Fly domestic from Chiang Mai to Bangkok. Allow at least six hours in Bangkok before your international flight out. You appear unconcerned that you will be blacklisted from entering Thailand for a long time. Expect immigration to give you a lecture, as well as collecting the 20,000 baht fine. They will also take some time checking to see if there is any criminal proceeding outstanding against you. Then you should be free to go. Good luck in your future life back in Europe. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tabarin Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) When I overstayed and got blacklisted for a year it took little afford (suvarnabhumi airport). I told the airline right away at check-in and then they gave me some sign showing 'Overstay' which allowed me to proceed to the Overstay desk right away instead of lining up in the queue. Few words were exchanged and 10 minutes later I got in free duty. Came back a year and 1 month later without a visa and the same passport with blacklist stamp (hiding or renewing passports is pointless) in Phuket, 15 minutes interview and back in the country. As a few people said, I would take a direct flight to KL from CNX as well but in both cases nothing to worry about if you leave without being arrested. Edited January 17, 2019 by tabarin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, balo said: The main problem here could be your passport, if it's expired. Not easy to avoid IDC if that is the case. Dont the embassies issue temporary travel documents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ChipButty said: Dont the embassies issue temporary travel documents? Yes, at least the swedish embassy do that..... glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, glegolo said: Yes, at least the swedish embassy do that..... glegolo British do also, do they have a Belgium consulate in Chiang Mai I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Whatever you decide good luck, I know in England we can change our names and get a new passport 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, balo said: The main problem here could be your passport, if it's expired. Not easy to avoid IDC if that is the case. This is what I was thinking. Passports are good for 10 years. The OP is a 16 year overstay. What passport does he hope to travel anywhere on???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I wonder what is the record for the longest overstay? I did read a couple of years ago 25 years overstay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, NamKangMan said: This is what I was thinking. Passports are good for 10 years. The OP is a 16 year overstay. What passport does he hope to travel anywhere on???? He could have applied for a new passport or gotten an emergency travel-doc. If the latter, he might only be able to go to Belgium - policy differs by country on ETDs. Hopefully he got a new full-passport, and so his options are less limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 A post advocating illegal activities has been reported and removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JackThompson said: He could have applied for a new passport or gotten an emergency travel-doc. If the latter, he might only be able to go to Belgium - policy differs by country on ETDs. Hopefully he got a new full-passport, and so his options are less limited. I accept what you say, but if we do the math, and "assume" a little, let's say the OP entered Thailand 16 years ago with a new passport, which is best case scenario. This passport expired 6 years ago. How did he get a new passport, 6 years ago, with a 10 year overstay? If he has a passport he can use, then he can't be a 16 year overstay. I'm a visa runner, and have never overstayed, and never will, thus, I am not up to date on the overstay legalities, but something doesn't sound right. I'm starting to sense a troll. Edited January 17, 2019 by NamKangMan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, NamKangMan said: I accept what you say, but if we do the math, and "assume" a little, let's say the OP entered Thailand 16 years ago with a new passport. This passport expired 6 years ago. How did he get a new passport, 6 years ago, with a 10 year overstay? I'm starting to sense a troll. Maybe. But does your embassy care if you are on overstay regarding issuing a new passport? Honest question - I don't know - but guessing it's not their problem. The worse-case is if he "lost" a passport, and does not have a police-report for this. That could prevent departure. If he shows up with an old/expired passport with his entry-stamp shown, or police-report for his old/lost passport, plus a current passport or ETD allowing onward-travel, he should be fine. If flying direct to Belgium, I think he could even travel there on his old/expired passport (your own country cannot deny you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, NamKangMan said: How did he get a new passport, 6 years ago, with a 10 year overstay? Not hard to do. Embassies do not care about a person being on an overstay. It is not their responsibility to check for it when accepting an application for one. How would a person leave the country without a valid passport if they refused to issue one? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JackThompson said: Maybe. But does your embassy care if you are on overstay regarding issuing a new passport? Honest question - I don't know - but guessing it's not their problem. The worse-case is if he "lost" a passport, and does not have a police-report for this. That could prevent departure. If he shows up with an old/expired passport with his entry-stamp shown, or police-report for his old/lost passport, plus a current passport or ETD allowing onward-travel, he should be fine. If flying direct to Belgium, I think he could even travel there on his old/expired passport (your own country cannot deny you). Surely, Embassies can not be complicate in a crime. (overstaying) Would they really issue a new passport for someone on such a long overstay? I seriously doubt they would. In relation to flying direct to Belgium, it's my understanding NO airline is obligated to accept a passenger without a valid passport. They simply will not let you board, and it's understandable, as it's not their problem. If the OP is not trolling, I can only assume he has an expired passport, so must be detained for the purpose of arranging an emergency passport and paying his overstay fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gilo Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Had an 11 year overstay. Was able to get a new passport as ubonjoe correctly states above. I cleared it at Suvarnabhumi once the prospect of the blacklisting rules were about to be implemented. In the summer of 2014 there was a strong rumour that they were going to be brought in without notice, in fact they provided notice and were not introduced until 2016. To talk you through it, you go to the overstay counter as your overstay is long as was mine they will probably call for the senior i/o to attend but in truth I found them very professional and once the overstay is paid you will make your own way to the gate - no detention cell! I was lucky with my timings and was able to fly back 4 days late from KL and although questioned by the admittance officer I was landed with a visa exempt entry. However that was before the blacklisting came into force so for you just to reassure you that you may find them curious as to why you overstayed but overall it was a straightforward exercise clearing it at the airport. Good luck, you must have entered Thailand around the same year I did but once I got a whiff of the overstay rules I got it sorted and am still in Thailand. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Not hard to do. Embassies do not care about a person being on an overstay. It is not their responsibility to check for it when accepting an application for one. How would a person leave the country without a valid passport if they refused to issue one? You were posting when I was typing. I know you are experienced in all things visa related UJ, but perhaps we can hear from a member who has actually received a new passport from their Embassy or Consulate, whilst on an overstay, and I mean, a serious overstay, not just a few days. As I said in a later post, of course an Embassy would issue an emergency passport, but I would suggest that is only with documents from Immigration official because the person is in detention. The OP could do like JT suggested and present to his Embassy claiming a lost / stolen passport, but doesn't that require a police report? Wouldn't the police verify identity with immigration? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, owl sees all said: I met a Swedish chap in Pattaya in 2008. He had overstayed (sort of) for a number of years. When his passport was OK, he went across to Laos, at Nong Khai, and got a stamp out. Then paid to be rowed across the river, back to Thailand. According to the Thai, authorities, he is not in the country. He thought it better than years of overstay fines. What a stupid thing to do. The maximum overstay fine is 20,000 baht. Being found in the country on overstay (expired permission), or without permission, is the same punishment! Edited January 17, 2019 by elviajero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, NamKangMan said: You were posting when I was typing. I know you are experienced in all things visa related UJ, but perhaps we can hear from a member who has actually received a new passport from their Embassy or Consulate, whilst on an overstay, and I mean, a serious overstay, not just a few days. As I said in a later post, of course an Embassy would issue an emergency passport, but I would suggest that is only with documents from Immigration official because the person is in detention. The OP could do like JT suggested and present to his Embassy claiming a lost / stolen passport, but doesn't that require a police report? Wouldn't the police verify identity with immigration? I did precisely that with an 11 year overstay. At that time the applications were sent direct to the UK not Trendy. There was not an issue. One's immigration status is not their concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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