webfact Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Air pollution alert for Friday By The Nation Air pollution is expected to get worse in Bangkok on Friday following a slight improvement in weather conditions on Thursday. Fewer locations reported fine particle dust higher than safe levels on Thursday, while the Thai Meteorological Department issued a warning about a high pressure area hovering over Laos and Thai Northeast that will cause a temperature drop by 1-3 degrees Celsius in Greater Bangkok on Friday. The Pollution Control Department (PCD), meanwhile, reported that 16 roadside areas and nine general areas (away from main roads) of Greater Bangkok had unsafe levels of particulates smaller than 2.5 microns (PM2.5) in the air. The safe limit is 50 micrograms of PM2.5 per cubic metre of air. In Bangkok, a roadside area on Paholyothin Road in Chatuchak district, another spot in front of Kasetsart University in Bang Khen district, and another area near the Thanon Tok Intersection in Bang Kho Laem district each reported an unsafe level of 62 micrograms. The PCD also reported that the air quality on Friday would be "moderate" and cited the weather bureau as saying there would be no rain in the capital city and five surrounding provinces. In the wake of air pollution, various agencies have this week implemented dust-reducing measures such as the suspension of construction work January 16-22 for the Mass Rapid Transit Authority of Thailand's Orange, Yellow and Pink electric rail lines. Bangkok Mass Transit Authority checked vehicles and weeded out exhaust-spewing buses from roads, while traffic police nearly doubled checkpoints from the previous 12 to be 20 to seize exhaust-spewing vehicles. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration sent workers to clean and spray water at risky spots daily. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30362423 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 As always conflicting reports, same days bad, sometimes good and "yeah I don't know", "IH UUUH AAAHH don't worry...", Mai pen rai.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNPBC0 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, MaxLee said: As always conflicting reports, same days bad, sometimes good and "yeah I don't know", "IH UUUH AAAHH don't worry...", Mai pen rai.... Pollution levels fluctuate at the same location, often from hour-to-hour, due to changes in wind and other weather conditions - and, of course, changes in traffic density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Surely not- say lie, speak new- the powers that be have it all under control with their cloud seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, mommysboy said: Surely not- say lie, speak new- the powers that be have it all under control with their cloud seeding. So showering the dense population of the city of Bangkok with silver iodine which has been rated as a hazardous chemical is a good idea. Harmful not only to humans but to livestock and fish. Even mild toxicity absorption via nose, lungs and skin can cause gastro irritation, renal and pulmonary lesions, and mild blue or black discoloration of the skin. No worries folks the caring junta has your welfare at heart. If the smog doesn't get you the cloud seeding will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Still air, higher particulates predicted for today By The Nation A trains runs through along a track as bad air pollution continues to affect Bangkok yesterday. // EPA-EFE PHOTO POLLUTION is expected to get worse in Bangkok today following slight improvements in weather conditions yesterday. Fewer locations reported fine particle dust beyond safe levels yesterday, while the Meteorological Department issued a warning about a high-pressure area hovering over Laos and the Northeast that will bring temperatures down by 1 to 3 degrees Celsius in greater Bangkok today. According to the department’s director-general Phuwiang Prakhammin, there will be a slight dip in temperatures from yesterday to Saturday thanks to the high-pressure area. However, once the cooler air mass withdraws, still air will hover over greater Bangkok and it will combine with fog. The level of fine particle dust may peak on Sunday. Though the air may be less toxic because rain on Tuesday and Wednesday washed away some of the dust. The Pollution Control Department (PCD), meanwhile, reported that 16 roadside areas and nine general areas (away from main roads) in greater Bangkok still had unsafe levels of particulate matter smaller than 2.5 microns (PM2.5) in the air. The safe limit is 50 micrograms of PM2.5 per cubic metre of air. In Bangkok, roadside areas on Phaholyothin Road in Chatuchak district, a spot in front of Kasetsart University in Bang Khen district and the area near the Thanon Tok intersection in Bang Kho Laem district each reported an unsafe level of 62 micrograms. The PCD also reported that the quality of air today will be “moderate” and cited the weather bureau as saying there will be no rain in the capital and its five surrounding provinces. In the wake of pollution, various agencies have this week implemented dust-reducing measures such as suspending the construction of the Mass Rapid Transit Authority of Thailand’s Orange, Yellow and Pink electric rail lines until January 22. Meanwhile, the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority has been checking vehicles and keeping exhaust-spewing buses off the streets, while traffic police have nearly doubled checkpoints to 20 from the previous 12 to catch and seize polluting four-wheelers. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration has sent workers to clean and hose down risky spots on a daily basis. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30362474 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: keeping exhaust-spewing buses off the streets Absolute rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungstib Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Every Friday? Maybe its the politicians fleeing to Hua Hin or Khao Yai for some weekend fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Deputy PM says not an issue. More rubbish from this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunProletariat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 What a truly filthy place. Ideal for sewer rats. KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunProletariat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Wiggy said: Absolute rubbish. Whats rubbish? The fact that old buses spew out most of the exhaust fumes and they should be banned? Seems logical to me. KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, KhunProletariat said: Whats rubbish? The fact that old buses spew out most of the exhaust fumes and they should be banned? Seems logical to me. KP. I meant that I think it's absolute rubbish that they're keeping them off the streets. Well, if this morning was anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 What amuses me is that Chiang Mai has had appalling smog every burning season for many years and nothing has been done, but as soon as it's reported that Bangkok has some, oh the horror, suddenly they're spending lots of money, panicking & coming up with all sorts of hairbrained solutions. And they wonder why the North and Northeast aren't impressed with the government or any of the political parties based in Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hard to believe that it could get any worse. Nevertheless, Thailand is a nation of overachievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 If I am not mistaken, the BTS and MRT run on clean energy. The problem is that they are expensive means of transportation for most natives. And the trains are not run frequently and are often crowded. Take the money they are spending to spray water 20 meters into the air (absolutely kindergarten science) forceably retire most buses which cannot be fixed, and subsidie BTS/MRT travel. Get additional revenue from any vehicle not following traffic laws through hefty fines, and confiscate and sell any motorcycles riding or parked on the sidewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 50micrograms is safe. Wow, from what i h derstand no measure is safe but due to people wanting to have some reference point 15 and 30 have been mentioned in other countries as ok. Lucky Thais get 50.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, alfalfa19 said: Hard to believe that it could get any worse. Nevertheless, Thailand is a nation of overachievers. No it's not hard to believe at all,..... it was up in the air, that these day will come sooner than later..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougiemac57 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Still air, higher particulates predicted for today By The Nation A trains runs through along a track as bad air pollution continues to affect Bangkok yesterday. // EPA-EFE PHOTO POLLUTION is expected to get worse in Bangkok today following slight improvements in weather conditions yesterday. Fewer locations reported fine particle dust beyond safe levels yesterday, while the Meteorological Department issued a warning about a high-pressure area hovering over Laos and the Northeast that will bring temperatures down by 1 to 3 degrees Celsius in greater Bangkok today. According to the department’s director-general Phuwiang Prakhammin, there will be a slight dip in temperatures from yesterday to Saturday thanks to the high-pressure area. However, once the cooler air mass withdraws, still air will hover over greater Bangkok and it will combine with fog. The level of fine particle dust may peak on Sunday. Though the air may be less toxic because rain on Tuesday and Wednesday washed away some of the dust. The Pollution Control Department (PCD), meanwhile, reported that 16 roadside areas and nine general areas (away from main roads) in greater Bangkok still had unsafe levels of particulate matter smaller than 2.5 microns (PM2.5) in the air. The safe limit is 50 micrograms of PM2.5 per cubic metre of air. In Bangkok, roadside areas on Phaholyothin Road in Chatuchak district, a spot in front of Kasetsart University in Bang Khen district and the area near the Thanon Tok intersection in Bang Kho Laem district each reported an unsafe level of 62 micrograms. The PCD also reported that the quality of air today will be “moderate” and cited the weather bureau as saying there will be no rain in the capital and its five surrounding provinces. In the wake of pollution, various agencies have this week implemented dust-reducing measures such as suspending the construction of the Mass Rapid Transit Authority of Thailand’s Orange, Yellow and Pink electric rail lines until January 22. Meanwhile, the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority has been checking vehicles and keeping exhaust-spewing buses off the streets, while traffic police have nearly doubled checkpoints to 20 from the previous 12 to catch and seize polluting four-wheelers. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration has sent workers to clean and hose down risky spots on a daily basis. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30362474 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-18 Yesterday the Thai authorities said there was nothing to worry about. Doesn't look that way to me. The next step will be to ban vehicles in Bangkok! What a nightmare that would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 19 hours ago, webfact said: Fewer locations reported fine particle dust higher than safe levels on Thursday, There's a clue in the post.... just stop reporting high levels, problem solved !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moutamine Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, zyphodb said: What amuses me is that Chiang Mai has had appalling smog every burning season for many years and nothing has been done, but as soon as it's reported that Bangkok has some, oh the horror, suddenly they're spending lots of money, panicking & coming up with all sorts of hairbrained solutions. And they wonder why the North and Northeast aren't impressed with the government or any of the political parties based in Bangkok? Chiang Mai is a shit hole... Never breathed such disgusting air in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Maybe they could divert some of that submarine money to buying new busses, you know like the ones they ordered before and then refused delivery of. Or maybe add some additional trains to the BTS / MRT to relieve the massive overcrowding caused by extension of the lines. oops forgot it’s a military government so submarines much more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, KhunProletariat said: Whats rubbish? The fact that old buses spew out most of the exhaust fumes and they should be banned? Seems logical to me. KP. Exactly logical. They should also look at converting the coal-fired power stations to LNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 the main problem is the number of cars bikes and other forms of transport on the roads in Bangkok they need to start introducing no go areas and fine people using polluting dirty exhausts ect like other Capital cities but here its a pipe dream will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 They need to convert the coal-fired power stations to LNG. That would help a great deal. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180821-the-giant-coal-plant-converting-to-green-energy The use of Biomass generation and also rubbish incineration would help as well on a smaller scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkkthebest Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 come on. think on the bright side. at least, the mosquitoes are kept at bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokov Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 No doubt there are civic organizations in Thailand active in environmental matters, and numerous activists -- many of them highly educated people -- have been sounding the alarm for years now with regard to pollution and other concerns, but it appears their influence is limited. Are they up against some kind of ingrained fatalism in the culture, or is it that possibly any kind of civic involvement -- or a call to same -- is simply ignored? If so, it may be ignored because it is seen as an "elitist" kind of thing, since most Thais, like people everywhere, are more concerned about their next meal, and do not see environmental issues as more than an abstraction, or something merely indulged in by airheads. (No pun intended.) However, one should not dismiss also the deadening oppression of a government that is itself unresponsive in any meaningful way to the pleas of those individuals and groups calling for change -- the urgent need for which has become increasingly evident. Autocratic governments around the world have been on a campaign to intimidate and harass dissidents, whistleblowers and investigative reporters. In countries and cultures living under such a government, there is also what could be called self-censorship, whereby individuals have internalized what the culture does not want them to think or say; they know they will be left alone as long as they do not raise their voice. So I would suggest that the problem is cultural and to a certain degree political. A state apparatus resistant to change (fearful of it, really) and ready to quash those who threaten its grip, will do what it must -- by means of propaganda, infiltration of dissident movements, and all the other usual dirty tricks -- to save itself. Those in power will ensure that no one shall be the wiser, or even care when someone just disappears, dies suddenly foaming at the mouth on a park bench, or surfaces after a long absence in a video confessing to sedition or some other infamy. And those unnamed powers will make sure that everything will soon be forgotten -- advising the media to relegate it to yesterday's news and kill the story as soon as possible. Money is at the heart of it -- and fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshborg Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: Still air, higher particulates predicted for today By The Nation A trains runs through along a track as bad air pollution continues to affect Bangkok yesterday. // EPA-EFE PHOTO POLLUTION is expected to get worse in Bangkok today following slight improvements in weather conditions yesterday. Fewer locations reported fine particle dust beyond safe levels yesterday, while the Meteorological Department issued a warning about a high-pressure area hovering over Laos and the Northeast that will bring temperatures down by 1 to 3 degrees Celsius in greater Bangkok today. According to the department’s director-general Phuwiang Prakhammin, there will be a slight dip in temperatures from yesterday to Saturday thanks to the high-pressure area. However, once the cooler air mass withdraws, still air will hover over greater Bangkok and it will combine with fog. The level of fine particle dust may peak on Sunday. Though the air may be less toxic because rain on Tuesday and Wednesday washed away some of the dust. The Pollution Control Department (PCD), meanwhile, reported that 16 roadside areas and nine general areas (away from main roads) in greater Bangkok still had unsafe levels of particulate matter smaller than 2.5 microns (PM2.5) in the air. The safe limit is 50 micrograms of PM2.5 per cubic metre of air. In Bangkok, roadside areas on Phaholyothin Road in Chatuchak district, a spot in front of Kasetsart University in Bang Khen district and the area near the Thanon Tok intersection in Bang Kho Laem district each reported an unsafe level of 62 micrograms. The PCD also reported that the quality of air today will be “moderate” and cited the weather bureau as saying there will be no rain in the capital and its five surrounding provinces. In the wake of pollution, various agencies have this week implemented dust-reducing measures such as suspending the construction of the Mass Rapid Transit Authority of Thailand’s Orange, Yellow and Pink electric rail lines until January 22. Meanwhile, the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority has been checking vehicles and keeping exhaust-spewing buses off the streets, while traffic police have nearly doubled checkpoints to 20 from the previous 12 to catch and seize polluting four-wheelers. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration has sent workers to clean and hose down risky spots on a daily basis. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30362474 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-18 You cant fix this problem ever.Im on my last yearly month long visit and never coming back.Too many tourists and too much pollution.The place has long lost its soul and charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, KhunProletariat said: Whats rubbish? The fact that old buses spew out most of the exhaust fumes and they should be banned? Seems logical to me. KP. The rubbish is, is that the buses will most likely remain on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowItAllSMD Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Air quality in Bangkok is horrible but it’s always been horrible. Why the sudden panic? Bangkok air has always made my nose bleed for as long as I can remember. Booked out of Bangkok moons ago and set up shop in Phuket. And Bangkok air is certainly not even close to as bad as China, Hanoi Vietnam, India, and even Paradise, California USA. Check out an app called Air Visual that will tell you the AQI in a given area. Bangkok is at 60 which is not bad at all. It’s up in the 140 to 180 range in China and Hanoi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 hours ago, soistalker said: If I am not mistaken, the BTS and MRT run on clean energy. The problem is that they are expensive means of transportation for most natives. And the trains are not run frequently and are often crowded. Take the money they are spending to spray water 20 meters into the air (absolutely kindergarten science) forceably retire most buses which cannot be fixed, and subsidie BTS/MRT travel. Get additional revenue from any vehicle not following traffic laws through hefty fines, and confiscate and sell any motorcycles riding or parked on the sidewalk. What is the clean energy they run on? Buses go places BTS and MRT don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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