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Double cut! Teachers shear student's lovely long hair AND cut grades of her friend who filmed it

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9 hours ago, scorecard said:

Where's the Ed. ministry? No comment, asleep, too lazy, incapable of construction a comment,  as usual. 

On easy street earning their salary as easily as they can. No fuss, no bother, no care a rat’s arse. 

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Such a shame the education standards and rules weren't as rigid as this antiquated rule. You can wear dirty clothes, filthy socks, but the hair is the most important thing in appearance.

 

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2 minutes ago, kannot said:

typical thai

Typical Thai bash.  If something good happens like the train running on time or the airplane not crashing do you post, "Typical Thai?"

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6 minutes ago, Teacherduck said:

Such a shame the education standards and rules weren't as rigid as this antiquated rule. You can wear dirty clothes, filthy socks, but the hair is the most important thing in appearance.

 

Don't they wear socks with no shoes?  So, of course, the socks are filthy.  The uniforms may be hand me downs from a couple of older children.  The kids may not have enough to eat.  Have you ever offered them food?  Or new socks or shirts?  Typical Farang.  (reference to kannot above)

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10 minutes ago, Teacherduck said:

Such a shame the education standards and rules weren't as rigid as this antiquated rule. You can wear dirty clothes, filthy socks, but the hair is the most important thing in appearance.

 

Thais will be Thais, it seems that being something else, something better, or even recognising their weakness and aspiring to something better, is completely beyond them. Until they rectify that shortcoming, they will never have a decent education. Not ever. And they will always be subject to the dictates of the school director who allows his teachers to behave in this disgraceful and bullying way.

 

As I said before, this guy is very lucky this was not my step-daughter.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

On easy street earning their salary as easily as they can. No fuss, no bother, no care a rat’s arse. 

Same as the rest of the government then. Just have to say you love the big guy. Everything else is unimportant.

 

Without a major disruption, which the head boy will claim was his doing anyway, nothing will change. Everything will stay just where it is, which is exactly what the landed barons want.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

On easy street earning their salary as easily as they can. No fuss, no bother, no care a rat’s arse. 

Need to dump the whole bunch.  Thailand spends a fortune on education but a pittance on teachers.  Where oh where does it go? 

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11 hours ago, YetAnother said:

and by doing so, the school loses a Lot more face; obviously top management

That is 100 times worse. Let the girls be. Wearing longer hair and filmig acts of abuse.

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A close look at the video will show OTHERS With Hair longer than these idiotic regulations.

 

I am all for maintaining School Discipline BUT...this is STUPID and those responsible for the Assault upon the Student should be facing Criminal Charges.

if any mongrel did that to my daughter, I’d have the POLICE onto them in a flash and I’d also sue them for inflicting physical and mental damage.  

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While I have some sympathy for the girl in question, I also understand the position of the school to uphold the rules in a fair manner to all students.

The rules do state that hair has to be of a certain length, this applies to all students as does wearing the correct uniform etc etc.

If the school allows some students to continually break the rules then obviously this will open the door for others to follow suit.

The student had stubbornly refused to have her hair cut for reasons known to her, but she could have helped herself by plaiting her hair during school hours to make the appearance of it being short, letting it down to her preferred length out of school hours.

Sometimes if you push you luck too far and look for a reaction you will get one !!!

 

As for all those saying in the west/my country blah blah blah..... well this is Thailand !!

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22 hours ago, Pilotman said:

One of our Thai Nephews is a village teacher.  He is a serious and dedicated young man and I know that he treats the children well and is liked and respected by his students.  However, after Military service, he trained as an electrician and then took up teaching.  Zero teacher training for him and zero checks done on his competence to teach.  I do like the lad,  but his level of pure knowledge and awareness of the outside world is minimal to say the least.  That says everything  that needs to be said about the education system here.  

We all know there is always another side to any story.  My 27yo Thai stepdaughter is a high school science teacher in the public school system. She has double degrees in biology and education and she's brilliant, kind and caring, gets her students to think outside the box, and is respected by students and peers.  She takes offense to your characterization of the village doofus  as representative of the entire Thai education system. 

 

I asked her about this issue and she brought to light something that is being ignored in all the arrogant negativity characteristic with many TV posters and Facebookers. Lice.  Besides the cultural tradition and perceived benefits of uniformity for younger students, and lessons in humility as important for character building, it is hers and the system's view of policy, that historically infestations of head lice become rampant in younger students in a close environment.  They believe that short hair limits the infestations and is a benefit to the student community. Individuality and self expression must be sacrificed for the larger public health cause, like it or not.  The alternative of chemical treatment is not always affordable or acceptable to all families, so it doesn't get done dependably enough for effective control. 

 

In older students head lice becomes less of an issue and longer hair is allowed.   

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31 minutes ago, drtreelove said:

We all know there is always another side to any story.  My 27yo Thai stepdaughter is a high school science teacher in the public school system. She has double degrees in biology and education and she's brilliant, kind and caring, gets her students to think outside the box, and is respected by students and peers.  She takes offense to your characterization of the village doofus  as representative of the entire Thai education system. 

 

I asked her about this issue and she brought to light something that is being ignored in all the arrogant negativity characteristic with many TV posters and Facebookers. Lice.  Besides the cultural tradition and perceived benefits of uniformity for younger students, and lessons in humility as important for character building, it is hers and the system's view of policy, that historically infestations of head lice become rampant in younger students in a close environment.  They believe that short hair limits the infestations and is a benefit to the student community. Individuality and self expression must be sacrificed for the larger public health cause, like it or not.  The alternative of chemical treatment is not always affordable or acceptable to all families, so it doesn't get done dependably enough for effective control. 

 

In older students head lice becomes less of an issue and longer hair is allowed.   

You might be right but I don't think you are. I seriously doubt this had anything to do with lice, and the lice argument is an attenmpt by one Thai to find a sensioble reason for non-sensible behaviour on the part of another Thai. Thais will generally find excuses for supporting another Thai, it's a cultural norm. IMHO, I think this instance had everything to do with demonstrating power, though I agree with others who have said that this girl in particular may have been treated to a special display while there are others in the pic with long or longer hair.

 

You know Thais as well as I do, any opportunity to establish themselves as superior or more powerful that someone else must be taken for the sake of self-esteem, let's not pretend otherwise.. It's a psychological consequence of the toxic culture they're exposed to in their formative years ( I wrote 'developing' rather than 'formative' in the first draft of this message, then realised why it felt odd - that most Thais never emerge from their childhood developing years in the same way children in other countries do, so the distinction needed to be made).

 

Thais will be Thais.

 

 

 

 

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Lice will not differentiate between long or short hair so you can forget that argument. Most of you are men and as such you may not appreciate what importance a girls hair has to the person involved.

From a mothers point of view, if I had a daughter in this situation, I would be totally disgusted and probably end up being locked up after turning up at school with scissors in hand and doing the same or at least attempting to, to the teachers involved.

On a calmer note, I can understand that a certain standard has to be maintained, the Army rules covered just this, hair had to off the collar, so if you wanted it long it had to be pinned up, that worked for me and most of the platoon as well.

To chop into someones hair like this is an assault on a person, they should have sent her home from school until the situation was remedied to their liking or the parents finding another school.

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23 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Zero training for him and zero checks done on his competence to teach. ...but his level of pure knowledge and awareness of the outside world is minimal

That would have qualified him to become a general.

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