UK PM May makes no change to demands in talks with EU leaders - report

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UK PM May makes no change to demands in talks with EU leaders - report

 

FILE PHOTO: Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May makes a statement following winning a confidence vote, after Parliament rejected her Brexit deal, outside 10 Downing Street in London, Britain, January 16, 2019. REUTERS/Clodagh Kilcoyne

 

(Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May made no change to her demands in talks with European Union leaders despite her Brexit plan being defeated by British lawmakers earlier this week, the Telegraph newspaper reported on Friday.

 

May's demands continued to focus around either a legally binding time-limit for the Irish 'backstop'; a right for Britain to unilaterally withdraw, or a commitment to a trade deal finalisation before 2021 to prevent the backstop from coming into force, the report said, citing unnamed senior EU diplomatic sources.

 

The backstop is an insurance policy designed to prevent the return of border checks on the frontier between EU-member Ireland and Northern Ireland.

 

May repeated her demands in talks with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Emmanuel Macron and Irish leader Leo Varadkar, the paper reported.

 

On Friday night, May was also going to meet Arlene Foster, leader of the Northern Irish Democratic Unionist Party, which has 10 seats in parliament and supports May's government but not her Brexit deal, a Telegraph reporter said on Twitter. The meeting would also be attended by Nigel Dodds, deputy leader of the DUP.

 

May's deal for Britain to leave the EU was defeated earlier this week by 230 votes. She has appealed to lawmakers to come together to try to break the impasse.

 

REUTERS: 2019-01-19

[NanLaew]

Got to keep Arlene onside. Her party's 10 votes were the difference between May or Corbyn as PM last Wednesday.

[Psimbo]

8 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Got to keep Arlene onside. Her party's 10 votes were the difference between May or Corbyn as PM last Wednesday.

10 DUP votes and she won by 19. Still not that comforting for her.

 

She's still doing her best to sabotage what the people (not the establishment) voted for.

[Chomper Higgot]

The biggest defeat in a Parliamentary vote since the 1920s, and she’s making demands.

 

She’s as deluded as she was when she slashed 20,000 police officer posts in the belief crime could be fought from behind a computer.

[norfolkc]

The only thing keeping her in office is the fact that the Labour party has bad leadership and are going to far to the left 

[NanLaew]

19 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

10 DUP votes and she won by 19. Still not that comforting for her.

 

She's still doing her best to sabotage what the people (not the establishment) voted for.

Not that comforting? Try arse-puckeringly close.

 

The count was 325 for and 306 against. If Arlene had commanded her 10 DUPes to change sides, May would have have been up to see Liz and tendered her resignation already. I know that the DUP aren't that short-sighted but with mainstream media all saying that May will 'comfortably' win the no confidence vote, the actual result was the stark reality. Not too much is being made of how the UK dodged THAT bullet... or the two Conservative MP's that didn't support her.

[Samui Bodoh]

 

Time to call the professionals!

 

 

 

[NanLaew]

[NanLaew]

 

[Snow Leopard]

Its a no deal exit. 

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, norfolkc said:

The only thing keeping her in office is the fact that the Labour party has bad leadership and are going to far to the left 

The the real fun and games will start on Monday with the statement re Plan B and the subsequent amendments. 

 

May has gone through the motions of pretending to want cross party talks but has no intention of shifting, she can’t change anything else Ministers will quit. Whilst Corbyn wont shift as he’s got his own agenda of causing maximum disruption to plan for another GE. Strangely his strategy may actually prove successfull in the end once the Tory front bench start stabbing each other shortly and he ends up having the last laugh. 

 

Utter shambles. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Grouse]

Certainly time for parliament to take back control from this incompetent, arrogant and cynical executive. I do hope some Tories have the guts to resign the whip and stand as independents.

[jollyhangmon]

  ...  Know what, just hand back all those awfully confusing governmental affairs to the Windsors, even fully soaked with top-shelf Port they couldn't have clusterducked it worse ... 555 ... 

[Emdog]

I'd like to see May simply say "Screw, I'm out of here. You think you can get a better deal? Good luck. BTW I have a London bridge you may want to buy."

[welovesundaysatspace]

8 minutes ago, Emdog said:

I'd like to see May simply say "Screw, I'm out of here. You think you can get a better deal? Good luck. BTW I have a London bridge you may want to buy."

She knows that:

- no one would step up to replace her, because everyone knows it’s a deadlock and you can only lose;

- it would then lead to a GE;

- Tories would lose such GE. 

 

Good thing is, time is ticking, thanks to Theresa. So at some point, MPs need to make a decision for something, whether that’s hard Brexit, A50 withdrawal, or saving themselves but sacrificing the Tory party (by resigning). 

[Andrew65]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The biggest defeat in a Parliamentary vote since the 1920s, and she’s making demands.

 

She’s as deluded as she was when she slashed 20,000 police officer posts in the belief crime could be fought from behind a computer.

Brussels has made it clear that nothing substantial in the deal will change anyway.

 

Trump/ America's representative has already made clear that a trade deal with the UK would be very difficult under the May deal.

 

What does Britain have that America would want an interest in anyway? The NHS and maybe the City? They can make & do everything they want Stateside anyway, and Trump has made it clear that that's how he wants it.

[Andrew65]

55 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Certainly time for parliament to take back control from this incompetent, arrogant and cynical executive. I do hope some Tories have the guts to resign the whip and stand as independents.

Never gonna happen, without the 10 DUP votes last week they would've lost the no confidence vote. No Tory MP would risk a GE and a Labour gvt.

[Grouse]

6 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Never gonna happen, without the 10 DUP votes last week they would've lost the no confidence vote. No Tory MP would risk a GE and a Labour gvt.

So let's give the DUP 1.001 Billion to change sides. Money grubbing parasites controlling parliament. Maybe Sinn Feign would be up for a bribe? Otherwise, where can one buy potato blight?

[vogie]

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

The the real fun and games will start on Monday with the statement re Plan B and the subsequent amendments. 

 

May has gone through the motions of pretending to want cross party talks but has no intention of shifting, she can’t change anything else Ministers will quit. Whilst Corbyn wont shift as he’s got his own agenda of causing maximum disruption to plan for another GE. Strangely his strategy may actually prove successfull in the end once the Tory front bench start stabbing each other shortly and he ends up having the last laugh. 

 

Utter shambles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Certainly time for parliament to take back control from this incompetent, arrogant and cynical executive. I do hope some Tories have the guts to resign the whip and stand as independents.

Some people spend their whole lives wishing for this and that.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, norfolkc said:

The only thing keeping her in office is the fact that the Labour party has bad leadership and are going to far to the left 

How many "things" would you like?

[Grouse]

Just now, SheungWan said:

Some people spend their whole lives wishing for this and that.

Some of us state our preferred policies. 'bout time you ceased sneering and voiced your own ideas.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, Snow Leopard said:

Its a no deal exit. 

or a no exit deal.

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

How many "things" would you like?

You to cease sneering and come up with some interesting ideas yourself!

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

or a no exit deal.

And how would you suggest that be delivered?

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The biggest defeat in a Parliamentary vote since the 1920s, and she’s making demands.

Followed by winning a vote of confidence. Still stronger than all the other alternatives for now and other than Corbyn nobody stepping forward on the Tory side to be PM.

[Andrew65]

34 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Followed by winning a vote of confidence. Still stronger than all the other alternatives for now and other than Corbyn nobody stepping forward on the Tory side to be PM.

Under their rules, the Tories can't have another leadership challenge until December, and it doesn't look like Teresa-the-Appeaser is going anywhere otherwise, although she has mentioned no Brexit at all.

 

A second referendum would take maybe a year to organise.

 

Brussels has said that it's the May-deal and no other.

 

Increasingly looking like a no-deal Brexit, all other options are quickly disappearing.

[melvinmelvin]

59 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

She knows that:

- no one would step up to replace her, because everyone knows it’s a deadlock and you can only lose;

- it would then lead to a GE;

- Tories would lose such GE. 

 

Good thing is, time is ticking, thanks to Theresa. So at some point, MPs need to make a decision for something, whether that’s hard Brexit, A50 withdrawal, or saving themselves but sacrificing the Tory party (by resigning). 

 

you may be right re the possible outcome of a GE

if it were to be conducted during the next say 4 weeks

 

that is one of the reasons why it was extremely unfortunate that the

Tory internal non conf didn't ditch TM

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

Never gonna happen, without the 10 DUP votes last week they would've lost the no confidence vote. No Tory MP would risk a GE and a Labour gvt.

not correct me thinks

look at the voting figures

 

DUP not supporting PM would not be sufficient to ditch her

 

[melvinmelvin]

38 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Followed by winning a vote of confidence. Still stronger than all the other alternatives for now and other than Corbyn nobody stepping forward on the Tory side to be PM.

right