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UK PM May makes no change to demands in talks with EU leaders - report

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Just now, melvinmelvin said:

not correct me thinks

look at the voting figures

 

DUP not supporting PM would not be sufficient to ditch her

 

She would've lost the no-confidence vote by one vote if the DUP hadn't have voted for her.

 

The result was 325 to 306, the DUP had 10 votes.

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1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

Brussels has made it clear that nothing substantial in the deal will change anyway.

 

Trump/ America's representative has already made clear that a trade deal with the UK would be very difficult under the May deal.

 

What does Britain have that America would want an interest in anyway? The NHS and maybe the City? They can make & do everything they want Stateside anyway, and Trump has made it clear that that's how he wants it.

that is not quite correct

 

immediately after TM survived the non conf Barier expressed

that it just might be possible to go back an alter the deal

(of course that was not an off the cuff expression, but well prepared and anchored)

also,

both Germany and France signalled that they might agree to pushing the Brexit date to March 2020.

 

so, opportunities just may arise

 

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5 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

She would've lost the no-confidence vote by one vote if the DUP hadn't have voted for her.

 

The result was 325 to 306, the DUP had 10 votes.

yes,

and then you subtract 10 from 325,

in my book you do not end up with 305 but you end up with 315

 

still PM

 

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1 minute ago, melvinmelvin said:

yes,

and then you subtract 10 from 325,

in my book you do not end up with 305 but you end up with 315

 

still PM

 

Yes but in my book the other side (maybe) ends up with 316. you work on the assumption that the DUP would never vote against the Gvt, although they suspect that themselves & Ulster would get a worse deal under Labour vis-a-vis the island of Ireland.

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18 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

you may be right re the possible outcome of a GE

if it were to be conducted during the next say 4 weeks

that is one of the reasons why it was extremely unfortunate that the

Tory internal non conf didn't ditch TM

Life is one long rear-view litany of unfortunate this and unfortunate that.

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Just now, Andrew65 said:

Yes but in my book the other side (maybe) ends up with 316. you work on the assumption that the DUP would never vote against the Gvt, although they suspect that themselves & Ulster would get a worse deal under Labour vis-a-vis the island of Ireland.

They "suspect...." ? :cheesy:

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4 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Yes but in my book the other side (maybe) ends up with 316. you work on the assumption that the DUP would never vote against the Gvt, although they suspect that themselves & Ulster would get a worse deal under Labour vis-a-vis the island of Ireland.

please, por favor

 

don't change the whole plot/game,

we're talking about DUP not supporting TM

we are not talking about DUP killing TM

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Worst PM and worst HS ever ?

On a par with the useless wish lists.

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4 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

They "suspect...." ? :cheesy:

The Good Friday Agreement was signed under a Labour gvt.

 

How can they "know" rather than suspect anything? Unlike you obviously.

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1 minute ago, Andrew65 said:

The Good Friday Agreement was signed under a Labour gvt.

 

How can they "know" rather than suspect anything? Unlike you obviously.

Rumour has it that Jeremy Corbyn slightly different to Tony Blair. Even the DUP can work that one out even if some forum contributors might have a little difficulty.

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3 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Rumour has it that Jeremy Corbyn slightly different to Tony Blair. Even the DUP can work that one out even if some forum contributors might have a little difficulty.

Rumour had it that it would've turned John Major's stomach to even think of talking to IRA/Sin Fein, when it was obvious that gvt agencies were/had anyway.

 

Without at least talking to such people, the GFA would have probably been impossible. To his credit the GFA talks were started under Major, it was signed by the Blair gvt.

 

Corbyn voted against Britain's catastrophic, and probably illegal invasion of Iraq.

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23 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

A second referendum would take maybe a year to organise.

That is what the government would have you believe.

There is already a bill in parliament, first read on 9th May 2018 with the first second reading due on 6th July, after various reschedules it has been pushed back to the 8th of Feb 2019. With the government in charge of Commons business every chance it could be pushed back to April.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2017-2019/0208/cbill_2017-20190208_en_2.htm#l1g3

 

Summary of the European Union Withdrawal Agreement (Public Vote) Bill 2017-19

A Bill to provide that any Withdrawal Agreement between the United Kingdom and the European Union shall not have effect without a vote by the electorate of the United Kingdom and Gibraltar to that effect; to make arrangements for the holding of such a public vote; and for connected purposes.

https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2017-19/europeanunionwithdrawalagreementpublicvote.html

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18 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Rumour had it that it would've turned John Major's stomach to even think of talking to IRA/Sin Fein, when it was obvious that gvt agencies were/had anyway.

 

Without at least talking to such people, the GFA would have probably been impossible. To his credit the GFA talks were started under Major, it was signed by the Blair gvt.

 

Corbyn voted against Britain's catastrophic, and probably illegal invasion of Iraq.

We are not discussing Iraq, we are comparing Blair and Corbyn re the DUP.

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