metisdead Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Some troll posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Looking at the trial reporting, the only evidence about her driving seem to have come from Shepherd, including the claims that she insisted on driving and that she was going full throttle. Obviously she's not there to dispute his claims and since it serves his interests to place her at the helm, I'm just not convinced he's a trustworthy witness.According to report the boat was not in good order prior to the accident, the steering had a problem. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Artisi said: Wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb, would he? Probably another example of indepth Thai police work. Nice unrelated Thai bash. You can never resist getting one in can you. There is no arrest warrant out for him in Thailand. He fled justice in the UK. What has that got to do with the Thai police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlander76 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 If he is in Thailand ,he will not be able last long he has a ten thousand pounds bounty on head 40000 baht for a photo and a location , if this goes viral with the locals over face book he will not last the week. Happy hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 He's probably not hiding in a remote village, but Pattaya like the rest of them so he can get laid and eat British food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tall Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 By the sounds of it this young punk needed to keep his mouth shut and get a better lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, balo said: He's probably not hiding in a remote village, but Pattaya like the rest of them so he can get laid and eat British food. Sex & food , thats all some people think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, sanemax said: Sex & food , thats all some people think about I'd say those items are what *most* people think on a daily basis. Regarding OP I've been smashed out of my wits relinquishing control of my boat to more sober people, even less experienced ones, as I think it's "better" seamanship than trying to operate a vehicle while impaired. Lifejackets of course worn and safety regs for the most part adhered to etc; Got boarded one time by maritime patrol, checking the condition of the "skipper" when doing that, as the enforcers of the law saw that the boat was being handled erratically (not so calm waters and not so experienced skipper on a lake), I was personally taking a snooze in the kabooze and the driver wouldn't dare to wake me up, so went with the GPS a couple of hours along the lake. Well the boarding party made us all blow into the whistle, and 0.00% alcohol from the boat operator, (not gonna disclose mine, but several times over the limit). This boat type did not require licenses of any sort, even 100bhp x2 engines... End result was, that the law escorted us to nearest port to ensure safety for everyone. I asked of the liability if there was an accident, and surely they answered: it would be biased against the owner when relinquishing control to any other party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 hours ago, highlander76 said: If he is in Thailand ,he will not be able last long he has a ten thousand pounds bounty on head 40000 baht for a photo and a location , if this goes viral with the locals over face book he will not last the week. Happy hunting 25,000 Pound according to the Mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Is this a clue to where he might have been? It was posted along with the article in a paper in the UK So, who knows where this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 14 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said: Again, I haven't see anything saying the courts accepted it. Several news reports seem to accept it, I just can't see where they're getting that from - other than from Shepherd's words at trial. Here's some reporting from the trial itself including verbatim quotes from Shepherd: Looking at the trial reporting, the only evidence about her driving seem to have come from Shepherd, including the claims that she insisted on driving and that she was going full throttle. Obviously she's not there to dispute his claims and since it serves his interests to place her at the helm, I'm just not convinced he's a trustworthy witness. It was in a U.K Court , they would have checked evidence and circumstances and the prosecution would have questioned him about it and they seemed satisfied that what he said was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, sanemax said: It was in a U.K Court , they would have checked evidence and circumstances and the prosecution would have questioned him about it and they seemed satisfied that what he said was true The same U.K Court that found him guilty of manslaughter, after the cases of the defense and prosecution were both put forward ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongjaw Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 55 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Is this a clue to where he might have been? It was posted along with the article in a paper in the UK So, who knows where this is? Bueng Kan, Wat Phu Tok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 hours ago, balo said: He's probably not hiding in a remote village, but Pattaya like the rest of them so he can get laid and eat British food. Needle in Haystack then. Perhaps U can find him!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver sea Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 According to the Daily Mail, it was Jack Shepherd who was driving the boat when it hit the log, and it is the young lady who is heard shouting; “You’re driving too fast.” She was not the first woman to jump aboard. The boat was part of his seduction technique, along with giving the young ladies plenty of alcohol. The police had warned him twice before about his speeding; the life jackets were not easily accessible in an emergency; the boat was poorly maintained. It was an accident waiting to happen; and it did, with tragic consequences for one poor young lady. Anyway, the Daily Mail is offering a reward of £25,000 for his capture and return to justice before the English courts. Full details, including information about his past, are here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6608547/Fugitive-Jack-Shepherd-sneering-justice-exotic-bolthole-Thailand.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Moral of the story is don't let women drive your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netease Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Interesting the Daily Mail only offer reward to UK residents If they really want to get him it should be open to all Nationally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netease Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Moral of the story is don't let women drive your boat. Its sad that people like you are on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver sea Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, Netease said: Interesting the Daily Mail only offer reward to UK residents If they really want to get him it should be open to all Nationally Yes interesting point. Netease ???? The DM offer was originally published on 2nd January, and so before the claim about his being in Thailand was made. I guess they haven’t noticed that now he might be in Thailand, it’s more likely that someone who is not a British resident will be the one to spot him! Point 6 says: “The Daily Mail may vary these terms and conditions if it is reasonable or necessary to do so.” The DM can well afford £25,000. I don’t think anyone would object if a Thai hands him in and claims the reward, because “he’s not a British resident, goddamit!” Anyway, for completeness, this is the link to 2nd January article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6549743/Jack-Shepherd-got-six-years-jail-killing-date-24-going-run.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver sea Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, sanemax said: The link that you provided does not state that Jack was driving the boat when it crashed Hi Max, Thanks for taking the trouble to read my post. The article does say: “As Shepherd, who’d been warned for speeding at least twice by police in previous weeks, drunkenly careered down the river, Charlotte, a 24-year-old business consultant, was heard exclaiming: ‘Oh my God, you’re going so fast!’ ‘Shortly before midnight, the boat hit a submerged log and capsized near Wandsworth Bridge. ‘Shepherd was found clinging to its hull, calling ‘Help me!’ (not, it was observed in court, ‘Help us!’). He was also unable to give rescuers his companion’s name. ‘Charlotte was eventually plucked from the freezing water but she never regained consciousness and was pronounced dead in hospital.” My reading of the article is that Shepherd was driving the boat at all times. I agree that that is an assumption, but not an unreasonable one, and that the article does not include the words “... the [boat driven by Shepherd] hit a submerged log....” Maybe the DM journalist was careful to word the sentence in that way. Sadly she was pulled “from the freezing water but never regained consciousness and was pronounced dead in hospital.” If he swore on the Bible that he wasn’t the one driving the boat, Charlotte wasn’t in a position to contradict him. Even if she had been, maybe some people would still prefer to believe him rather than her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 He'll surface at sometime, he's got to be making money somehow or be in the company of someone who doesn't know his history. Best thing Thai police can do is put this story out in the media and flush him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 1:51 PM, Rc2702 said: On 1/19/2019 at 1:48 PM, sanemax said: Yes "But after he handed her the wheel on their return journey, the boat hit a log and capsized, pitching the pair into the cold water of the River Thames." https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jack-shepherd-guilty-speedboat-date-12986054 But buoyancy aids were not used. It's reckless. the gut seems to be perfectly qualified to captain a boat in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Funny little Engine for a Speedboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Why is it that thailand is a magnet for foreign fugitives all over ? Tells a lot about the integrity of law enforcement and corruption here. I don’t hear such thing about other south East Asian countries though Cambodia is trailing behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 1:27 PM, colinneil said: Hiding in a remote village, bit stupid if he is, because no way can a farang hide in a remote village. I doubt that many Thais would be aware of him so he would be safe in that respect. Until seeing this I had never heard of him. Not seen the "Post" for a few days so I do not know how much publicity it has had there. Or whether the Thai media have made anything of it. Possibly the BIB are out and about nailing his photo to every tree near a remote village but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongjaw Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, sanemax said: The link that you provided does not state that Jack was driving the boat when it crashed Sanemax, really in all honesty where are you going with this. You’ve hijacked the OP from the very first comment and continue to do so. It’s not about who drove or who didn’t drive. It’s about a fugitive possibly hiding out in rural Thailand. He’s guilty and knew he was guilty that’s why he fled. That why he kept it hidden from his wife who he married 2 weeks after killing the girl. He’s also fled from the charge of glassing a barman. If your so bent on proving he was given a stiff sentence address the U.K. court of law and the authorities who are still paying his legal aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Well said!!!! Sanemax, really in all honesty where are you going with this. You’ve hijacked the OP from the very first comment and continue to do so. It’s not about who drove or who didn’t drive. It’s about a fugitive possibly hiding out in rural Thailand. He’s guilty and knew he was guilty that’s why he fled. That why he kept it hidden from his wife who he married 2 weeks after killing the girl. He’s also fled from the charge of glassing a barman. If your so bent on proving he was given a stiff sentence address the U.K. court of law and the authorities who are still paying his legal aid. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tongjaw said: Sanemax, really in all honesty where are you going with this. You’ve hijacked the OP from the very first comment and continue to do so. It’s not about who drove or who didn’t drive. It’s about a fugitive possibly hiding out in rural Thailand. He’s guilty and knew he was guilty that’s why he fled. That why he kept it hidden from his wife who he married 2 weeks after killing the girl. He’s also fled from the charge of glassing a barman. If your so bent on proving he was given a stiff sentence address the U.K. court of law and the authorities who are still paying his legal aid. You know when someone digs a hole, gets it wrong and their stubborn pig headinness and pride won’t stop them just keep digging.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ctkong said: Why is it that thailand is a magnet for foreign fugitives all over ? Tells a lot about the integrity of law enforcement and corruption here. I don’t hear such thing about other south East Asian countries though Cambodia is trailing behind. Well, if you're a fugitive and can choose between 5 countries in SE-Asia , Thailand is the winner for many, better infrastructure, better food, cheap rent, a foreign crowd you can hide in etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Some off topic posts about whether who was driving the boat have been removed, more will be removed as they come up. This is not a re-trial on this case, it is about the fugitive hiding from justice in a remote village in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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