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BANGKOK 19 February 2019 12:25
Wullie Mercer

Changing to fibre optic internet connection

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Require some advice, I have been offered an upgrade to fibre optic. 150Mps download speed. I have at present cable 50Mps download and 20Mps upload.

What I need to know, is my existing router compatible to the fibre upgrade. Router details: TP-Link, Model No. Archer VR600. It says on the technical data on product box that it is VDSL/ADSL/ fiber/cable compatible but I am being told"Need new router"?

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30 minutes ago, Wullie Mercer said:

What I need to know, is my existing router compatible to the fibre upgrade. Router details: TP-Link, Model No. Archer VR600. It says on the technical data on product box that it is VDSL/ADSL/ fiber/cable compatible but I am being told"Need new router"?

They will probably provide you with a complete new fibre modem/router, in which case you can use just that. Or you could connect that new router (in "bridge mode") to your old one and use both, but that would require the two to be set up correctly.

You could also use a fibre modem with your existing router if the fibre supplier will give you one and if their service works that way.

So you need to ask the fibre supplier what type and model device they will give you.

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13 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Mine was upgraded last week and they gave us a new router too. The other point is thise speeds are useless hype as the 100+ is ONLY for connections inside Thailand, go outside and its less than 10 !! (In my case).

Which company is that? From a decent provider you should get much better speed outside of Thailand than that.

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1 minute ago, KittenKong said:

Which company is that? From a decent provider you should get much better speed outside of Thailand than that.

TOT, not impressed, some days its lower than 3 to the UK and all they say is "outside thailand not guarantee and cannot help" Looking into other companies which were never available in the sticks in years gone by.

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3 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Which company is that? From a decent provider you should get much better speed outside of Thailand than that.

 

I have the same issue and its been like that for 10 years no matter what provider I have. 

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2 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

 

I have the same issue and its been like that for 10 years no matter what provider I have. 

I get more than 10mbs to destinations outside of Thailand just on my 50/20 3BB VDSL. But I also tested fibre from another provider which was much worse than that.

 

So I would say that the choice of provider certainly does make a big difference.

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4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

TOT, not impressed, some days its lower than 3 to the UK and all they say is "outside thailand not guarantee and cannot help" Looking into other companies which were never available in the sticks in years gone by.

My 3BB VDSL is much better than that.

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Another thing that should be noted with high bandwidth fiber connections here is that the modem/router provided is only 2.4 ghz and will very likely not be suitable to carry your entire package over wifi. 

 

Another higher end 5ghz router will need to be used along with the providers modem.

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2 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

I get more than 10mbs to destinations outside of Thailand just on my 50/20 3BB VDSL. But I also tested fibre from another provider which was much worse than that.

 

So I would say that the choice of provider certainly does make a big difference.

 

Doubt it, as Ive had every single provider in Thailand over 10 years and they all share the same international gateway, and the same bottleneck out of Thailand. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

 

Doubt it, as Ive had every single provider in Thailand over 10 years and they all share the same international gateway, and the same bottleneck out of Thailand. 

 

 

True, still i get quite high speeds 60-70 mbs or more when downloading from servers in the Netherlands. I guess it depends on what kind of connection too. I make multiple connections to those servers. I can't complain about my 3BB fiber 150 300 (50% extra because i paid ahead for a whole year)

 

Now downloading with 34Mb a second with SABnzb client.

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3 minutes ago, robblok said:

True, still i get quite high speeds 60-70 mbs or more when downloading from servers in the Netherlands. I guess it depends on what kind of connection too. I make multiple connections to those servers. I can't complain about my 3BB fiber 150 300 (50% extra because i paid ahead for a whole year)

 

Now downloading with 34Mb a second with SABnzb client.

 

Yeah but youre doing very specific kinds of networking. A passive, regular internet user wont be doing that. They will be paying for a service thinking they are getting a supreme connection but in reality nothing much is gained, especially as most of the big tech companies have servers all over the world, if not in Thailand itself. 

 

There is a benefit and a gain but its not as big as it seems. I pay it knowing this because I dont mind spending the money even if its only a 5% gain. 

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8 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

Doubt it, as Ive had every single provider in Thailand over 10 years and they all share the same international gateway, and the same bottleneck out of Thailand. 

As I mentioned, to outside Thailand on my 3BB VDSL I get much better than the figures quoted.

 

Have a look at the results of a test performed just now:

 

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7971531908

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3 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

 

Yeah but youre doing very specific kinds of networking. A passive, regular internet user wont be doing that. They will be paying for a service thinking they are getting a supreme connection but in reality nothing much is gained, especially as most of the big tech companies have servers all over the world, if not in Thailand itself. 

 

There is a benefit and a gain but its not as big as it seems. I pay it knowing this because I dont mind spending the money even if its only a 5% gain. 

I spend it for the same reason besides what is 1200 bt a month for internet. But i notice it in all my services. I use dropbox a lot for huge files the difference is enormous especially as they have servers in Thailand. In Thailand you can fully use your speed. I also have like 3 computers hooked up to this a few mobiles and a TV and one NAS (the one that downloads the TV shows and movies).

 

So for me its good but I would not expect the UK servers to be good, unless they are mayor players. The UK is not like the Netherlands its far more turned into itself not caring about outsiders reaching their servers. The Netherlands is small relying on outside people on their servers with lot of network nodes there. It makes a difference. 

 

The Netherlands is just good with AMSix connecting there and the fastest internet in Europe and 4th in the world. So it does not only mean Thailand is bad, the country people connect too matters a lot too.

 

https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/netherlands-has-fastest-internet-europe

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this is me using a VPN to Los Angeles and hitting a serer in LA.  True cable. 699 baht a month.

 

ping 233.   23.31 down.  1.59 up.

 

It is just fast enough for me to make comments on TV all day and never go outside.

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