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Suan Dusit poll shows people worried elections may not even be held

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

the survey found that 48.46 per cent ranked election uncertainty as their top worry, saying they were afraid it might not happen at all. 

Their concerns are completely unfounded, as of course elections will happen..............only not sure if it will be in their lifetime.

 

 

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just start blowing stuff up in bkk already please ppl... youll never over throw an army government unless your true thais who love their country act. Im sick of hearing how good thailand is so lets see people go about fixing it already. im sick of seeing the stooges on my phone. 

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1 hour ago, TKDfella said:

I don't want to appear selfish but I wonder what a Thai revolution would mean for us expats?

Sod all, except there'd be quite a lot of uneducated people running around making a lot of noise.

 

Same as now.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rugon said:

Really, I hope you don't work as a stockbroker or financial analyst. Take a look at all the BMW's and Benz's around the streets, even upcountry.

The luxury enjoyed by the few is not a reliable indicator of the health of the economy. It's just business as usual for the well off and connected, while the rest scramble for the scraps.

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I think the 'election' will eventually (after likely further delays) be held - but it will not be free and fair, nor will the claimed result honestly reflect the truth.

 

As for violent revolution: there are other ways of (non-violently) withdrawing one's consent from an undesirable 'government'. The masses of the people really do hold the power in their hands. After all, they are the true 'holders of sovereignty' in the nation of Thailand!

 

 

 

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Just holding out for that RESET Button.... 

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3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Rest easy. Doubt there will be a revolution like the Arab spring as wiser heads at the top of the food chain will purge the power crazy fraternity of generals and their allies in the privy council. Happening as we speak. 

 

If that's true, it won't be because of any altruistic concern for their own country or the bulk of its people.  It'll be because the generals are seen as overplaying their hands and threatening to ruin the gravy train for all the elites by creating the conditions for a no-holds-barred civil war.

 

Whatever apparent reforms or progress we'll see, it'll be as little as they think they can get away with to vent the pressure and bring things back down to a simmer.

 

But one day there will be an unforeseen external occurrence or they will miscalculate the public mood (not as likely, methinks, as there is more than one elite group and thus will tend to check and balance each other).  Or maybe one of their token show reforms or pieces of legislation will get out of their hands and take on a life of its own, with unintended and undeniable (even to Thais) consequences.  Likely some convergence/combination of all of it.

 

The Pandora's Box they desperately wish not to open is real knowledge of the outside world for the average Thai.

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, ramr said:

 

If that's true, it won't be because of any altruistic concern for their own country or the bulk of its people.  It'll be because the generals are seen as overplaying their hands and threatening to ruin the gravy train for all the elites by creating the conditions for a no-holds-barred civil war.

 

Whatever apparent reforms or progress we'll see, it'll be as little as they think they can get away with to vent the pressure and bring things back down to a simmer.

 

But one day there will be an unforeseen external occurrence or they will miscalculate the public mood (not as likely, methinks, as there is more than one elite group and thus will tend to check and balance each other).  Or maybe one of their token show reforms or pieces of legislation will get out of their hands and take on a life of its own, with unintended and undeniable (even to Thais) consequences.  Likely some convergence/combination of all of it.

 

The Pandora's Box they desperately wish not to open is real knowledge of the outside world for the average Thai.

 

 

 

 

Great post, Ramr.

'The Pandora's Box they desperately wish not to open is real knowledge of the outside world for the average Thai.' 

Yes, knowledge is power - or can be (if it is used) ....

 

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Time to move on folks,....

 

next topic....

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6 hours ago, HalfLight said:

Indeed, and it's sometimes difficult to tell whether genius or stupidity is at work. Past history would suggest the latter. Sometimes one has to conclude that the real accomplishment of Thais and Thailand is to uniformly bugger up everything.

 

Consistency of a type I suppose.

 

 

 

ISO 9001 status for consistency!

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2 hours ago, Eligius said:

I think the 'election' will eventually (after likely further delays) be held - but it will not be free and fair, nor will the claimed result honestly reflect the truth.

 

As for violent revolution: there are other ways of (non-violently) withdrawing one's consent from an undesirable 'government'. The masses of the people really do hold the power in their hands. After all, they are the true 'holders of sovereignty' in the nation of Thailand!

 

 

 

 I fully agree - in principle. But, having the power and exercising the power are two different things, they;ve always had the power, they have never exercise dit. Well, not since 1932 anyway, and that was a pantomime.

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6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Rest easy. Doubt there will be a revolution like the Arab spring as wiser heads at the top of the food chain will purge the power crazy fraternity of generals and their allies in the privy council. Happening as we speak. 

Oh yes, I'm with you on this one but I had a hidden line there...embassies Ha! If I get as much help from mine as I did in another eastern country I'd better buy a tank now and dig in...metaphorically speaking of course, Ha!

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