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Yingluck claims she has washed hands off politics

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40 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

Being convicted and sentenced by your political opponents backed by army tanks doesn't count for much in my book.

So in your opinion she did nothing wrong and I'll guess you would apply that to her convicted brother, and they are both victims of totally false accusations and false convictions.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

She does not need politics anymore. She and her corrupt cronies fleeced the country.

The fleeced many small rice farmers dry. Those small land holdings are now owned by large land owners

who bought up their farms after the rice scheme collapsed. Small land holders had borrowed from banks and money racketeers

based on Yinlucks promises. She is a toad of a woman and I hope she is never allowed back into the country.

Because that is what this headline is all about. Waiting out the statute of limitations like Mr Red Bullshite

No comment really necessary Mr/Mrs PP, except to say you really do not know what you are talking about.

I know your love of the current Junta knows no bounds, they say love is blind, but in years to come, hopefully just some of the dishonest stealing, lying and corruption of this current lot will come out in public.

Hopefully then, the top echelon will still be around and prosecuted for treason and hung from a public lamp post.

Mrs Y is as clean as a whistle compared to this current regime.

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29 minutes ago, JAG said:

I wonder whether she is giving up politics for good, never having anything to do with it ever again, or whether she has looked at the current situation, with a junta positioned to retain power through a questionable (?) election process, and a follow up junta/authoritarian regime manoeuvring to assume power, and has decided to stay out of things for the time being? Pheu Thai could be described as doing much the same

 

She is (in political terms) fairly young, and remains the person (along with Pheu Thai) most likely to win a free election. That shows little sign of changing. 

She won't be the first to lie / break her promise to stay away. Many have done the same including her brother and Suthep. So she is in good company. 

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2 hours ago, robblok said:

Not that twisted, I don't like her i think she is corrupt like the rest of them but at least she was easier on the eyes and looked more sincere. When i see the generals who are so bad at handling the press its easy to prefer her.

 

I dont care much anymore who will be in charge as they will almost all be the same. Corrupt (often blatantly) lying a lot, and never admitting they were wrong. So whoever is in power im sure he or she will do a fine job diverting the treasury to the private bank account of the other politicians or junta members who are like minded. 

 

"Not that twisted, I don't like her i think she is corrupt like the rest of them....."

 

Seems to me she and her aunt are clever in terms of strategies, but also clever enough to 'look clean' when things get investigated.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

"Not that twisted, I don't like her i think she is corrupt like the rest of them....."

 

Seems to me she and her aunt are clever in terms of strategies, but also clever enough to 'look clean' when things get investigated.

 

 

I thought she might have been innocent at first, that was before Boonsong started to talk and Thaksin his other sister ran away after being implicated in the rice program as the one having given Boonsong the order to sign. That combined with the fact that Siam Agri (company related to Thaksin in the past) was also implicated makes it highly likely the Shins benefited from it. I find it unlikely to think she did not know before i gave her the benefit of the doubt, not anymore after this news came out.

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2 hours ago, robblok said:

Yes doubt she was personally corrupt but it looks more and more her family was in knee deep.

 

Before Boonsong one of the guys who got convicted refused to talk who gave the order for him to sign the fake G2G deals. We only knew that a company close to Thaksin himself had benefited.  Now he is talking and suddenly Thaksins other sister is on the run. 1 + 1 = 2. So it looks a lot like her family benefited from it. Then its hard to believe she did not know and covered it up. She did an half hearten investigation that did not turn up a thing. Later the fake G2G deals with over 33 billion of damages turned up. 

 

Just shows they are crooks even the ones you don't expect it from. Unless new clean politicians rise this will go on for ever. As for having doubts the Thais managing their country one has only to look at the UK and US to see its not the only country with problems (so much for white superiority feelings)

 

I truly hope the Thais can figure it out.

 

Probably for the first time, I find myself in agreement with you and your mates. Like may people in Thailand, I would still prefer several corrupt governments run by or sponsored by Thaksin, who is a known crook from way back (as they all are), to one junta government who seized power at the point of a gun, are serial and inveterate liars and who probably cooked the books just to get at a Shinawatr on behalf of their sponsors.

 

My personal opinion, your mileage might vary and I don't much care if it does.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, robblok said:

I thought she might have been innocent at first, that was before Boonsong started to talk and Thaksin his other sister ran away after being implicated in the rice program as the one having given Boonsong the order to sign. That combined with the fact that Siam Agri (company related to Thaksin in the past) was also implicated makes it highly likely the Shins benefited from it. I find it unlikely to think she did not know before i gave her the benefit of the doubt, not anymore after this news came out.

 

I'm sorry, anyone who knows Thais knows that they're all dishonest given a chance. To now feign surprise that some Thai pooyays were crooks is just bizarre.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, robblok said:

That was because Boonsong at the time refused to say who ordered the signing of the fake G2G deals. Now its clear Thaksins other sister, who is now on the run did so. So its less likely Yingluck was as innocent as people think. 

 

Conjecture doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Thais should address treason before it tries to address corruption. And I doubt many Thais will address corruption and reduce their own chances of scoring backhanders in the future.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, HalfLight said:

 

Probably for the first time, I find myself in agreement with you and your mates. Like may people in Thailand, I would still prefer several corrupt governments run by or sponsored by Thaksin, who is a known crook from way back (as they all are), to one junta government who seized power at the point of a gun, are serial and inveterate liars and who probably cooked the books just to get at a Shinawatr on behalf of their sponsors.

 

My personal opinion, your mileage might vary and I don;t much care if it does.

 

 

I don't care anymore who will lead the next government. I will comment on whoever is next and will be as corrupt as the previous government or next. I just don't see things changing.

 

And yes i prefer a voted in government because its marginally better. But in the end they are all in it for themselves and will all act in the same way setting up stuff to benefit from it themselves. 

 

I won't be taking sides just taking pot shots at whoever is in the news for corruption or mismanagement at the time. I am sure I will be kept busy.

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2 hours ago, HalfLight said:

 

I'm sorry, anyone who knows Thais knows that they're all dishonest given a chance. To now feign surprise that some Thai pooyays were crooks is just bizarre.

 

 

 

I disagree about all Thais being dishonest.  I know plenty honest Thais and have had dealings where I could have been screwed over but was not.

 

I mean i gave her the benefit of the doubt of having gained from it (the fake G2G deals) but not anymore now her other sister is also involved. It would be really unbelievable she did not know about it. If others had been involved.. then maybe. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, HalfLight said:

 

Conjecture doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Thais should address treason before it tries to address corruption. And I doubt many Thais will address corruption and reduce their own chances of scoring backhanders in the future.

 

 

 

What we are doing at this forum is always conjecture. we have condemned watch man (without us having seen the evidence) and now I am doing the same here. Nothing new just an opinion based on the facts available at the time. That is what this forum is about.

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