Democratic U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris jumps into 2020 White House race

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

well, i am not a liberal progressive, so I don't assume those who disagree are evil, just wrong.

Most liberals proudly tell those who disagree with their ideology that they are evil, stupid, racist,

and so forth. That is the clear example of self righteousness here.

 

 

Sorry petal, I’m not going to spare your feelings.

 

Stupid is stupid and racist is racist.

[Nyezhov]

5 hours ago, Basil B said:

That was a foregone conclusion...

And why is that? I should vote for a Democrat just because she is a Democrat and against the President? You know how I think and how I analyze life from a few posts? You have deep understanding of my weltanshauung?

 

But hey, convince me: tell me how she is:

 

1. Qualified to be President, on her own, without tu quoque style analysis.

2. How her positions and policies will benefit the USA.

 

Because I dont think either apply.

 

[Throatwobbler]

The base of the Republican is old people and checking the profiles of the Trump supporters on here just helps confirm that. As the old continue to die the Republican base shrinks. This is why they try to shout and make so much noise as they know their numbers are getting smaller. This is also why are so scared about people like AOC. They know she is the future of the US and that they will soon find themselves reduced to a footnote in history. All the noise they make at the moment just reminds me of Abe Simpson.

[TopDeadSenter]

6 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

The base of the Republican is old people and checking the profiles of the Trump supporters on here just helps confirm that. As the old continue to die the Republican base shrinks. This is why they try to shout and make so much noise as they know their numbers are getting smaller. This is also why are so scared about people like AOC. They know she is the future of the US and that they will soon find themselves reduced to a footnote in history. All the noise they make at the moment just reminds me of Abe Simpson.

 You are almost right. The Republican base is slowly becoming smaller as a % of the total population, but not due to an old people having a republican affinity and then dying. It is due to unskilled freeloaders (potential democrat voters) being allowed to illegally immigrate into the US. If Trump invited white European workers with skills - plumbers, electricians, builders etc to wander freely over the border you would find the exact opposite scenario taking place. To prove my assertion, simply look how the people of south California, and south-east Florida vote(areas with huge illegal settlement).

[Spidey]

7 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

My attitude mirrors that of women who didn't sleep their way up the career ladder. Men too I imagine.

What evidence have you that Kamala slept her way up the career ladder? She had a year long relationship with one man. What right have you to say that the relationship was based on anything other than her love for Big Willie?

 

During their relationship, he recognised her obvious potential and gave her a leg up the ladder. Is that wrong? What man wouldn't do the same for a good woman?

[Somtamnication]

Jesus, at this point, just let Trump stay!

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, mcambl61 said:

well, i am not a liberal progressive, so I don't assume those who disagree are evil, just wrong.

Most liberals proudly tell those who disagree with their ideology that they are evil, stupid, racist,

and so forth. That is the clear example of self righteousness here.

 

 

You're getting close to the nub of the problem there. It is so obvious to see that the other side is wrong which makes one feel more assured about their own positions. Seldom considering that they themselves are also wrong. So everyone's just scoring points off each other in a game nobody wins. Except the 1% that is.

[Berkshire]

7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 You are almost right. The Republican base is slowly becoming smaller as a % of the total population, but not due to an old people having a republican affinity and then dying. It is due to unskilled freeloaders (potential democrat voters) being allowed to illegally immigrate into the US. If Trump invited white European workers with skills - plumbers, electricians, builders etc to wander freely over the border you would find the exact opposite scenario taking place. To prove my assertion, simply look how the people of south California, and south-east Florida vote(areas with huge illegal settlement).

Your logic is deeply flawed.  Most of the immigrants from Latin America are overwhelmingly Christians/Catholics and conservative--prime targets for the GOP...if the GOP was about Christians and conservatives.  They are a much better fit for the Republican party than "white European workers with skills" who are more likely to be liberal democrats.  You're pushing Trump's agenda that being Republican is not about being a Christian or conservative, but more about being white.  This is why the Republican Party is dying a slow death. 

[mcambl61]

22 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

You're getting close to the nub of the problem there. It is so obvious to see that the other side is wrong which makes one feel more assured about their own positions. Seldom considering that they themselves are also wrong. So everyone's just scoring points off each other in a game nobody wins. Except the 1% that is.

one side is throwing around the Hitler and Stalin comparison, it really is that simple to see.

one side is shouting down people in restaurants and wearing black with face masks while instigating violence

one side is silencing speech on college campuses

 

these things are blatantly obvious as well as the media compliance in not calling it out

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, Throatwobbler said:

This is also why are so scared about people like AOC.

Im not scared of AOC, when I was below 21, I was marching in the streets against the Vietnam War and fighting the old gray fascists.

 

Then I grew up. 

 

Many of today conservatives were yesterdays radicals.

 

One of these days, if I am bored, I will join Twitter and work her over. ???? She isnt the sharpest pin in the sewing kit.

 

1 hour ago, Throatwobbler said:

They know she is the future of the US and that they will soon find themselves reduced to a footnote in history

Wow. Thats scary. Its called the dustbin of history. The actual quote from Lev Davidovich Brontschein (Trotsky for you less in tune dudes) was :

 

“You are pitiful isolated individuals; you are bankrupts; your role is played out. Go where you belong from now on / into the dustbin of history!”

 

This was said to Julius Martov (a Democratic Socialist and Leader of the Mensheviks) at the first meeting of the Soviets after the October Revolution, wherein Martov argued for democratic principles in the face of the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks. We all know how the dustbin of history ended up, dont we? With a Checkist and a gun in the Cellars of the Lubyanka......

[Nyezhov]

6 hours ago, Basil B said:

She is certainly going to get under the skin of Americas leading misogynist and racist. 

Louis Farrakhan supports her, what are you talking about?

[mcambl61]

12 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Your logic is deeply flawed.  Most of the immigrants from Latin America are overwhelmingly Christians/Catholics and conservative--prime targets for the GOP...if the GOP was about Christians and conservatives.  They are a much better fit for the Republican party than "white European workers with skills" who are more likely to be liberal democrats.  You're pushing Trump's agenda that being Republican is not about being a Christian or conservative, but more about being white.  This is why the Republican Party is dying a slow death. 

uh, NO

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_American_politics_in_the_United_States

 

as of July 1, 2013, there are roughly 54 million Hispanics living in the United States, representing approximately 17% of the U.S. total population, making people of Hispanic origin the nation's largest ethnic minority. Mexican Americans alone are 64% of Hispanics,[2] the Democratic Party is considered to be in a far stronger position among Hispanics overall. The U.S. Census indicates that the Hispanic population of the United States is the fastest growing minority group in the country.[3]

 

but keep up the vacuous racist accusations when people don't agree with your politics or ideology

[Berkshire]

7 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

uh, NO

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_American_politics_in_the_United_States

 

as of July 1, 2013, there are roughly 54 million Hispanics living in the United States, representing approximately 17% of the U.S. total population, making people of Hispanic origin the nation's largest ethnic minority. Mexican Americans alone are 64% of Hispanics,[2] the Democratic Party is considered to be in a far stronger position among Hispanics overall. The U.S. Census indicates that the Hispanic population of the United States is the fastest growing minority group in the country.[3]

 

but keep up the vacuous racist accusations when people don't agree with your politics or ideology

You just don't get it.  If the GOP had been courting the Hispanics living in the USA, they wouldn't be in this predicament.  But at every turn, they've convinced these people that they don't belong.  The GOPs own lessons learned after losing to Obama in 2012 cited this fact.  Heck, Trump's very first speech played on this nonsense with the "criminals, druggies, rapists" coming from Mexico. 

 

Do you dispute the fact that most Latin Americans are Christians/conservatives?  What is the GOP about anymore, if not that? 

[mcambl61]

16 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You just don't get it.  If the GOP had been courting the Hispanics living in the USA, they wouldn't be in this predicament.  But at every turn, they've convinced these people that they don't belong.  The GOPs own lessons learned after losing to Obama in 2012 cited this fact.  Heck, Trump's very first speech played on this nonsense with the "criminals, druggies, rapists" coming from Mexico. 

 

Do you dispute the fact that most Latin Americans are Christians/conservatives?  What is the GOP about anymore, if not that? 

yes, many Hispanics are SOCIALLY conservative, but vote democrat, as they have been peddled the democratic myth of fighting for the minorities 

for decades after reinventing themselves in the 1960's. aided by the media of course.

 

and yes I agree the republicans have done a very poor job making the case for the policies that they support are good for everyone compared to

the ridiculous diversity quota mantra from the left that counts ethnicity numbers in every single facet of life. I don't agree religion is the main GOP

platform, but it assumed so. Their lack of debt control is their biggest failure with spending and waste rampant and zero accountability on both sides.

 

 

[mcambl61]

9 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

My attitude mirrors that of women who didn't sleep their way up the career ladder. Men too I imagine.

she passed the bar in 1990, was then appointed Assistant DA, how does a person with no experience do that?

 

Harris served as a deputy district attorney in Alameda County, California, from 1990 to 1998. Harris says she sought a career in law enforcement because she wanted to be "at the table where decisions are made."[8] In 1993, she started dating California Speaker of the Assembly Willie Brown, who introduced her to many powerful individuals in the California and Sacramento political and campaign management establishment.[22] In 2000, San Francisco's elected City Attorney, Louise Renne, recruited Harris to join her office, where she was chief of the Community and Neighborhood Division, which oversees civil code enforcement matters

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris

[DM07]

Mind you: the right wing is getting out the old "birther"- joke again!

If you have nothing to bring to the fight, "she is a born American!" is the to-go-to-tactic again!

Sick and sad!

[Scott]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

Louis Farrakhan supports her, what are you talking about?

I can't find where Farrakhan supports her.   Please supply a link.

 

[bristolboy]

25 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

she passed the bar in 1990, was then appointed Assistant DA, how does a person with no experience do that?

 

Harris served as a deputy district attorney in Alameda County, California, from 1990 to 1998. Harris says she sought a career in law enforcement because she wanted to be "at the table where decisions are made."[8] In 1993, she started dating California Speaker of the Assembly Willie Brown, who introduced her to many powerful individuals in the California and Sacramento political and campaign management establishment.[22] In 2000, San Francisco's elected City Attorney, Louise Renne, recruited Harris to join her office, where she was chief of the Community and Neighborhood Division, which oversees civil code enforcement matters

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris

It's clear that you don't even know what a deputy district attorney is. Allow me to enlighten you: 

"In the United States, a district attorney (DA) is the chief prosecutor for a local government area, typically a county. The exact name of the office varies by state. Except in the smallest counties, a district attorney leads a staff of prosecutors, who are most commonly known as deputy district attorneys (DDAs)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_attorney

In other words, if you were a lawyer working under the District Attorney is Alameda County, you were called a Deputy District Attorney. Nothing at all to do with undue influence.

 

[Nyezhov]

10 minutes ago, Scott said:

I can't find where Farrakhan supports her.   Please supply a link.

 

It was mean as a sarcastic reply to the over the top post, viz:

 

"She is certainly going to get under the skin of Americas leading misogynist and racist". One surely can claim that Farrkhan is that?

 

I have no idea what Farrakhans position on her is.

 

Regardless, she has seemed to disavow him which is to her credit

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.   The topic isn't about Elizabeth Warren.

 

[Nyezhov]

39 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

she passed the bar in 1990, was then appointed Assistant DA, how does a person with no experience do that?

That means nothing. District Attorneys always hunt down young graduates. Someone has to do weekend arraignments and such.

 

Young lawyers will gravitate to a DAs office for:

 

1. The Money: Criminal law experience. Get good at what you do, get to know the cops and the other DAs, get to know the Judges, get to know the system and walk into a criminal defense job at big bucks in a few years. Good folks to work with, they know they will be on your side some day so are upfront and fair

 

2. Jump starting a career as a prosecutor. Some folks will remain as a DA for a long time. It isnt hard work, not a lot of nights and weekends after the few years, decent pay, good pension, retire early. Good folks to work with, they do their job eithicly and dont want to cause waves

 

3. The Power Trippers: Its a great way to start your course to being a judge or a politico.

 

Number 3 were the ones I always mistrusted. Their lust for higher office overrode their obligation to do justice. Every case is a cause or a crusade to get noticed by the ones who count. The defendant is just a doormat on their road to their career.

 

I preferred "Power Trippers" that came from a PDs office. But they are rare, since PDs are either number 1 or 2, or their own category, the dedicated defense lawyers who view themselves rightfully as Liberty's Last Champion and will use their skills for the poor and downtrodden. 

[bristolboy]

16 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

That means nothing. District Attorneys always hunt down young graduates. Someone has to do weekend arraignments and such.

 

Young lawyers will gravitate to a DAs office for:

 

1. The Money: Criminal law experience. Get good at what you do, get to know the cops and the other DAs, get to know the Judges, get to know the system and walk into a criminal defense job at big bucks in a few years. Good folks to work with, they know they will be on your side some day so are upfront and fair

 

2. Jump starting a career as a prosecutor. Some folks will remain as a DA for a long time. It isnt hard work, not a lot of nights and weekends after the few years, decent pay, good pension, retire early. Good folks to work with, they do their job eithicly and dont want to cause waves

 

3. The Power Trippers: Its a great way to start your course to being a judge or a politico.

 

Number 3 were the ones I always mistrusted. Their lust for higher office overrode their obligation to do justice. Every case is a cause or a crusade to get noticed by the ones who count. The defendant is just a doormat on their road to their career.

 

I preferred "Power Trippers" that came from a PDs office. But they are rare, since PDs are either number 1 or 2, or their own category, the dedicated defense lawyers who view themselves rightfully as Liberty's Last Champion and will use their skills for the poor and downtrodden. 

Exactly how much experience did you have as a defendant?

The mantle of your alleged authority on the subject is very badly tattered. 

[metisdead]

Some more off topic posts and replies about Elizabeth Warren have been removed as this topic is not about her. 

 

A post containing an incoherent miss typing error has been removed.  Please proof read your post before posting. 

[Basil B]

13 hours ago, khaowong1 said:

Must be a lot of money to be made running for the Presidency.  Maybe I should run, boost up my retirement fund. 

Certainly the NRA will buy your soul, thing is you can keep selling your soul multiple times, even to conflicting interests...

[Basil B]

3 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

But hey, convince me: tell me how she is:

 

1. Qualified to be President, on her own, without tu quoque style analysis.

2. How her positions and policies will benefit the USA.

 

Because I dont think either apply.

On the same principles please explain how the currant POTUS ticks all any of the boxes?

[Nyezhov]

8 minutes ago, Basil B said:

On the same principles please explain how the currant POTUS ticks all any of the boxes?

We aren't talking about him though are we.

 

Is your argument merely, she is better than him? 

 

If that's so, then why not just flip a coin for the Democrat nomination.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

We aren't talking about him though are we.

 

Is your argument merely, she is better than him? 

 

If that's so, then why not just flip a coin for the Democrat nomination.

So all the Democratic candidates are better than Trump?

And how many sides do your coins have?

[Srinivas]

On 1/22/2019 at 10:57 AM, mcambl61 said:

qualified how precisely?

here she is at Aipac supporting 38$ billion for Israel.

It's seems to be a qualification I mean a requirement to become president.

 

[Nyezhov]

4 hours ago, Srinivas said:

here she is at Aipac supporting 38$ billion for Israel.

It's seems to be a qualification I mean a requirement to become president.

 

Well considering that Jewish Americans are by certain polls the highest income "group'' (I hate to use that word because it falls in the the Democratic Party Tribal trap), the highest "educated" group, the most "socially liberal" group, and the second largest supporter of Israel (after Evangelicals, who the Democrats have lost), looks like she needs their backing. Of course, she has to dance with the Anti Semites and their fellow travelers that now riddle the Democratic party (Farrakhan, Sarsour, Mallory, Tlaib, AOC).

 

Its sort of interesting to watch. Transgender rights and female circumcision. Abortions and anti catholics and Latino Catholics and Chadors and Jews. Oil and gas money vs Greens. Radical Socialists. SJWs and Blue Dogs (the few left...I was a Blue Dog once upon a time). The primaries are going to be very intellectually interesting. 

 

[bristolboy]

30 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Well considering that Jewish Americans are by certain polls the highest income "group'' (I hate to use that word because it falls in the the Democratic Party Tribal trap), the highest "educated" group, the most "socially liberal" group, and the second largest supporter of Israel (after Evangelicals, who the Democrats have lost), looks like she needs their backing. Of course, she has to dance with the Anti Semites and their fellow travelers that now riddle the Democratic party (Farrakhan, Sarsour, Mallory, Tlaib, AOC).

 

Its sort of interesting to watch. Transgender rights and female circumcision. Abortions and anti catholics and Latino Catholics and Chadors and Jews. Oil and gas money vs Greens. Radical Socialists. SJWs and Blue Dogs (the few left...I was a Blue Dog once upon a time). The primaries are going to be very intellectually interesting. 

 

Right, the Democratic party is riddled with anti-semites. Which is why benighted Jewish Americans. who are on average far more educated than most other groups in the USA, vote overwhelmingly to support the Democratic party. Even though, on a purely selfish economic basis, voting for Republicans would, be far more likely to economically benefit them. 

 

And there's also this:

Anti-Semitism: Republicans Vs. Democrats

Contrary to the long-standing neoconservative mantra that the left poses a greater threat to Jews than the right, a national poll released late last week suggests that Democrats are considerably more sensitive to—and worried about—anti-Semitism than Republicans.

The Quinnipiac University survey, conducted March 2-6, found a yawning difference between Republicans and Democrats on whether they considered “prejudice against Jewish people in the United States today … a very serious problem.” Over half of self-identified Democrats (51%) agreed that it was indeed “very serious,” while less than one in five (18%) Republican respondents described it that way.

A total of 87% of Democrats said that they considered the problem either “very” or “somewhat” serious. By contrast, only 53% of Republicans agreed—a 34-point gap.

https://lobelog.com/anti-semitism-republicans-vs-democrats/