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The frustrations by everyone around May is really beginning to show now.  Amber Rudd has said that up to 40 ministers could resign if they are blocked from backing a delay plan for Brexit. (Source is Daily Mail)  The Prime Minister is desperately trying to hang on to her pathetic deal that doesn't deliver what the people voted for and sells out the whole country.

 

She is taking us to the cliff edge trying to force through a deal that has been overwhelmingly rejected by parliament and the people alike.  Shame on her!

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said:

No deal is a betrayal of the referendum. Instead of gaining sovereignty it relinquishes more decisions to unelected institutions that the UK as less influence over. WTO rules are reached by consensus from  all members not any individual. The dispute resolution overrides  UK courts

This doesn't make sense. Have another go.

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3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

No Deal will be fine. Don't pay any attention to Remainers. They are, literally, petrified at the thought of leaving the EU. Sad and pathetic. 

The Remainers were just a neglectable minority of just a mare 48,11 %. Who cares.

Two months to go, and then Nissin cars from Sunderland and all others are out of competition with a 10% import duty into the EU. Same with mineral oil products 20%, fresh meat, 12.5%, fresh fruits + vegetables 4,7% and many others. As the British import a 60% of their foods from the EU, with seafreight a too long lasting and too expensive alternative, the Leavers will soon see the results at Tesco, Sainsbury, Morrissons, etc.

But.. when you forget the "my money back" of Thatcher, accept €uro, Schengen and.. right lane traffic, you are allowed to file a request for new membership again.

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Mrs May also scrapped the £65 fee EU citizens were due to pay to secure the right to continue living in the UK after Brexit.

 

Only fair as Brexit may not happen.

 

Though are other EU countries going to charge Brits if it does happen???

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1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Instead of gaining sovereignty it relinquishes more decisions to unelected institutions that the UK as less influence over.

So you are saying the EU parliament in which the UK has 73 out of 751 does not exist???

 

Only Germany(96) and France(74) have more elected MEP's, Italy has same as us, 73.

 

Problem is if we do extend Article 50 or withdraw it, what is going to happen about the European Elections are due in May, we could well end up disenfranchised.

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On 1/22/2019 at 3:14 PM, Nigel Garvie said:

This is refreshing to read, common sense, which is at a premium in Brexit threads. The PM saying a new referendum wouldn't be fair on voters is idiotic. She said it would threaten social cohesion. What social cohesion for heavens sake, society has been ripped apart by Brexit already. The numties believe everything wrong in their lives is down to the EU, as they have been told to think. Duh -austerity was a Cameron/Osbourne policy, bleeding the poor for the bankers crimes, while the rich made hay big time.

 

Now May is attempting another delaying tactic - she is the most humiliated PM in my lifetime and she wants a repeat performance!

 

"THERESA May has confirmed that she will take the same plan back to Brussels to ask for the same changes before the same MPs vote on it the same way. 

The prime minister has confounded critics who accused her of being out of ideas with her innovative new approach of repeating her actions exactly to achieve an identical result."

Cobblers. Watch and learn. . . 

 

 

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On 1/22/2019 at 2:55 PM, Mansell said:

The Prime Minister saying that it wouldn't be fair to the voters is complete nonsense. The voters would vote on their informed choices, and not on fear and the rubbish that was bandied around last time. I think the leavers are scared to see things be overturned a second time around. 

Quite right - in spite of being a remainophile, the PM keeps refusing to entertain the idea of a second referendum as though it were the spawn of satan.

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10 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

What is it with all those Tom, Dick and Harry making a fool out of themselves for the whole world to watch on YouTube? First that Pat whatsoever, now this genius. And then they complain when people notice that Brexiteers tend to be uneducated? 

And such bad taste in decor as well.

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On 1/22/2019 at 2:58 PM, Basil B said:

and they do not taken any notice of opinion poles...

 

Those blooming Poles again!

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Hard to see how Brexit can happen now -

MPs have voted against the only deal on offer 

MPs say they will vote against a " no deal " Brexit.

 

So,it looks like a second referendum is the only way out.

 

I don`t see whats so bad about leaving on WTO rules.They impose tariffs on our goods,we impose tariffs on their goods - it should even out over time.

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17 minutes ago, persimmon said:

Hard to see how Brexit can happen now -

MPs have voted against the only deal on offer 

MPs say they will vote against a " no deal " Brexit.

Currency markets are now discounting "no deal".

Sterling up.

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6 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

Quite right - in spite of being a remainophile, the PM keeps refusing to entertain the idea of a second referendum as though it were the spawn of satan.

She's stuck in-between a rock and a hard place.

 

Another referendum will SERIOUSLY annoy the leavers that won the first referendum, on the other hand (as you say) she is a remainer, and so are the vast majority of MPs.

 

This makes life very difficult for the govt. and MPs, as (having rejected the deal agreed between may and the eu - for obvious reasons, it was an appalling deal and the electorate knew that), it leaves them pretty much zero options that will be acceptable to the electorate?

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