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Bredbury Blue

England's ten biggest football clubs are still the same ones as 100 years ago

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From time-to-time on here there’s a ‘debate’ about which clubs are ‘big’ and which are not. Came across this Times article (I don’t have a subscription so I can’t download the full details) which clarifies, based on average league attendances, which are England’s top 10 biggest clubs :

 

“If fanbase is an indication of a club’s size and potential, then these are England’s biggest ten clubs, in order, based on average league attendances in the Premier League era, including any seasons spent in the lower divisions:

  1. Manchester United,

  2. Arsenal,

  3. Newcastle United,

  4. Liverpool,

  5. Manchester City,

  6. Chelsea,

  7. Everton,

  8. Tottenham Hotspur,

  9. Aston Villa, and,

  10. Sunderland.

Then move back in time to between the Second World War and the start of the Premier League in 1992. Which different clubs appear in the top ten over that 46-year period? The answer is none – the top ten are exactly the same, albeit in a different order.

What about even farther back to between the two world wars? Again, the very same ten clubs were attracting the largest attendances…”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-england-s-ten-biggest-clubs-are-still-the-same-ones-as-100-years-ago-lkc0pddtk

 

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^Don't think there's any surprises in the top 10 but it's very interesting that the top 10 haven't changed over the past 100 years. So it's Lancashire x 4, London x 3, North-east x 2 and midlands x 1.

 

 

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Size of the stadiums come into play?

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You have a Times subscription BB... I'm impressed. Not sure if I would sign up for that or Telegraph. 

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1 minute ago, RickG16 said:

You have a Times subscription BB... I'm impressed. Not sure if I would sign up for that or Telegraph. 

I don't, as stated "(I don’t have a subscription so I can’t download the full details)". Sometimes wish i did though as the Times has my favourite football journalist in Henry Winter.

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11 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I don't, as stated "(I don’t have a subscription so I can’t download the full details)". Sometimes wish i did though as the Times has my favourite football journalist in Henry Winter.

Yeah he is good, and Souness writes for them now too. 

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This is as you boldly put it. Only based on league attendances but does not answer the real question behind this topic. Out of the top 6 who has the least worldwide fan base?

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1 hour ago, Rc2702 said:

 the least worldwide fan base?

I've heard a few people on the outskirts of Stockport support City... that counts as international dunnit?

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14 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I don't, as stated "(I don’t have a subscription so I can’t download the full details)". Sometimes wish i did though as the Times has my favourite football journalist in Henry Winter.

the guardian has the better news/sports reporatage by far and its free,, if u choose.

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14 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Size of the stadiums come into play?

now, for sure,, bac in the day ,, mabe not, charlton had a HUGE stad others prob wernt that much smaller

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Is this just about ground capacity or about genuine support? If it's the latter I'd like to throw in a couple of names; Forest, Portsmouth and Leeds.

 

Wolves were a 'big' club in the 1950s and Ipswich were well thought of in the 60s. Go back between the wars and Huddersfield was a top northern club.

 

After they won the League in the early 1960s, Everton was the most successful club of all.

 

Talksport did a survey about 20 years ago and their findings were that Celtic was the most supported club in the world.

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1 hour ago, 3 minus 2 said:

the guardian has the better news/sports reporatage by far and its free,, if u choose.

With you there. My order of reading the footie news:

Bbc

Guardian  

Telegraph

Independent  

Mail / Mirror / T'Express

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7 hours ago, RickG16 said:

I've heard a few people on the outskirts of Stockport support City... that counts as international dunnit?

Bit rich coming  from a supporter of a club that calls  itself Manchester, hasn't  been based in Manchester for over a 100 years and is ridiculed for its support from outside of the North West 😋

 

City's  a local club for local people, to quote Tubbs.

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34 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Is this just about ground capacity or about genuine support? If it's the latter I'd like to throw in a couple of names; Forest, Portsmouth and Leeds.

 

Wolves were a 'big' club in the 1950s and Ipswich were well thought of in the 60s. Go back between the wars and Huddersfield was a top northern club.

 

After they won the League in the early 1960s, Everton was the most successful club of all.

 

Talksport did a survey about 20 years ago and their findings were that Celtic was the most supported club in the world.

Sorry but you can't  throw in names.

 

The top 10 is based on their attendances (presumably  home) and is therefore  factual.

 

The clubs you mention would  be probably  be in the top 11 to 20.

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46 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Sorry but you can't  throw in names.

 

The top 10 is based on their attendances (presumably  home) and is therefore  factual.

 

The clubs you mention would  be probably  be in the top 11 to 20.

Not much more to debate then.

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