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BANGKOK 20 July 2019 19:33
karl2007

Owner of our condo we rent to refuses to give up a copy of the property registration and ID card

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Hi,

 

I meet the requirements to obtain a marriage visa and have gathered all the documents that I need apart from the owner documents. However, my wife and I rent a condo which we have been renting for 2 years. We have asked the owner to give us a copy of the property registration and her ID card. We told her we need it for a visa at immigration. Now, she doesn't respond to our phone calls and messages to her our unanswered. 

 

We went to the juristic office and spoke to the manager, The manager said she can't give us that information without the owner's permission. Which is understandable. However, when we asked the manager to call her she refused to call the owner on our behalf. 

 

After spending time to gather all the documents we cannot provide further because of this. The only alternative is to use my wife's brothers house who are ok to give us a copy of their documents. However, as we don't live there I don't want to put that address down. 

 

We have always paid our rent on time and have never had any issues with her. I guess she is worried about giving us a copy of those documents as they are personal.

 

Any advice on how I can proceed with a case like this?

 

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Perhaps the owner does not know she is sub-letting?

Using an address you are not living at is not a good idea.

 

Move elsewhere.

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I just had this problem. They are more concerned with the address and landlord's info than my wife's and my marrage. 

If I don't count all the copies of my passport then. 

Almost 3/4 of all our paperwork was pertaining to address and landlord. Even my last embassy letter I can ever use has my address on it. 

Pretty soon they will just micro chip us or put ankel tracking bracelet. 

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.... FORGETTING to mention the possible failure of the landlords possible failure to file a TM 30 ( 10,000THB FINE to landlord )

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16 hours ago, Mavideol said:

she's not worried about the copy of the documents, she's worried about being fined for lacking to report you to the IMO and the fines could be quite a lot for the 2 years you mentioned

Surely they should have copies of both anyway when they did the change of address at immigration?!?!

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3 hours ago, George36 said:

Would the quickest and less costly way be for him to pay an agent to get it done?  Maybe, 20,000 Baht more or less?  Much cheaper than moving and the visa issue would be solved.  Just my humble opinion.  Thanks.

You work for an agent maybe ?

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If immigration insist on getting these documents from your landlord, and the landlord refuses to give them to you, then your only option is to move. This same situation occurred for me several years ago. The reason the landlord doesn't want to hand the documents over is usually to do with the unpaid TAX they should have been paying on the rental income, which they presumably have not declared. You can't use an alternative address as a home visit could well be required.

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