theoldgit Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 You guys might find this of interest In prison abroad, transfer to a UK prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The war on drugs is a lost cause. In the US, the only reason it continues is the false moral crusade waged by many Christian conservatives, Big Pharma, and the prison industry. It is a lost cause. Legalization of all drugs is the answer. Thailand continues to pursue draconian sentencing, when rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, and slave traders roam free, or face light sentencing. It is all about the money. If you have enough cash, you do not serve the time. Even in the US, if you have millions to throw at a defense team, at least you have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Who gives a <deleted> for this dumbass selling Crystal Meth... Should stay in prison to serve his full time sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, spidermike007 said: The war on drugs is a lost cause. In the US, the only reason it continues is the false moral crusade waged by many Christian conservatives, Big Pharma, and the prison industry. It is a lost cause. Legalization of all drugs is the answer. Thailand continues to pursue draconian sentencing, when rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, and slave traders roam free, or face light sentencing. It is all about the money. If you have enough cash, you do not serve the time. Even in the US, if you have millions to throw at a defense team, at least you have a chance. but, they need all those from your above 'roam free' list - to finance/buy/sell/use the drugs, to keep the market alive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Boo hoo!! Got caught, now crying. How sad, too bad, never mind. Suck it up boyo! Personally he could have rotted in prison for all I care. I would think some of those he trafficked to also had some problems. Their choice I know but he enabled them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Pickle Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 hours ago, darksidedog said: Nice post, though sadly out of touch with reality in one respect. While I agree that am amnesty used to totally remove the fine, you are overlooking the fine print of the prisoner transfer treaty, which states that a receipt must be shown to prove that all fines have been paid prior to a prisoner being transferred home. So, while the fine is "technically"removed in an amnesty, you don't get a receipt for it, so it is for all intents and purposes, still there. This has been the case for the last two years, and has had Embassies screaming that prisoners are being held to ransom for the fine money. So, in this case, his brother paid the fine. It did not reduce his sentence, but allowed him to be transferred home, where he got out quickly. Spare a thought for those whose families do not have that sort of money, who are being kept hostage for it. Thai people do have the fine removed in the same way in an amnesty, but they do not have to show a receipt at any point, for anything, so it is a totally unfair practice. I repeat, Welcome to Thailand, where money talks, and allows the rich to get off lightly. If you want to PM me, I will put you in contact with many families who will confirm that what I am saying is gospel truth. Or contact your Embassy, who will also confirm this disgraceful practice. Yes you can pay the fine off and can be put up for transfer back home I know this for a fact as I know someone who was sentenced to 50 years for having hardly any drugs on him he would not have even gone to court in the UK for it. The fine has been paid by his family and he is waiting for Transfer so you are out of date with your information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Commit the crime and do the time. Lucky bugger only did a 10th of the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 12 hours ago, KhunFred said: Thai prisons are horrible. This is not news to anyone who pays attention, I feel for anyone banged up in these places. There are much worse things than drugs done here and most go unpunished. Thailand and most other countries have followed America's drug hysteria into a morass of cruelty to their own people. Prisons deter nothing and solve nothing. Drug use is usually its own punishment. Decriminalization is the only sane solution. He sold meth. Never want meth to be legal. He ruined other people’s lives and souls and families for money. He should stay in prison forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 He should stop sniveling, or as they say in the UK. 'do come along'. Lucky he was not in one of those prisons in one of those countries where he could have lost all his teeth from getting 'skull <deleted>. Like the song goes 'if you dance to the music you have to pay to the piper'. \What's next? A book deal about how horrible the prisons are here with no mention of why he was sentenced to 30 years in the first place? Oh the humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: The war on drugs is a lost cause. In the US, the only reason it continues is the false moral crusade waged by many Christian conservatives, Big Pharma, and the prison industry. It is a lost cause. Legalization of all drugs is the answer. Thailand continues to pursue draconian sentencing, when rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, and slave traders roam free, or face light sentencing. It is all about the money. If you have enough cash, you do not serve the time. Even in the US, if you have millions to throw at a defense team, at least you have a chance. Legalizing meth is not a good solution. He got better than he deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I like Duertes model better, just shoot the drug dealers as the courts are backed-up and the prisons are overcrowded! It's easy, you choose if you want to do drugs or not and you sure as hell choose if you want to sell drugs or not because there is no one that first force a needle in your arm and the force you to sell the product. And you can't blame addiction because it was all your own choice or stupidity that first time you used drugs even though you have been told since you were in school that "don't do drugs because you will become addicted"! It's like my former student, she is doing drugs because "they make her have more fun when partying"... even thou her father is serving a 20 year prison sentence for selling drugs!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, sahibji said: imprisonment in itself is sufficient punishment. there is no need need to deprive a person of his dignity and self self worth. if prisons could solve human problems these should have become obsolete by now. unfortunately each country has its own taking on this matter and the treatment of offenders is accordingly different in these countries. Certain incarceration facilities are even more notorious with gang rapes, violence being common. we should not be judgmental of anyone, without knowing the total story. He sold meth to try to get lots of cash. Lock him up and talk about the lives he destroyed not his worthless I made a mistake BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtumwrong Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 12 hours ago, KhunFred said: Thai prisons are horrible. This is not news to anyone who pays attention, I feel for anyone banged up in these places. There are much worse things than drugs done here and most go unpunished. Thailand and most other countries have followed America's drug hysteria into a morass of cruelty to their own people. Prisons deter nothing and solve nothing. Drug use is usually its own punishment. Decriminalization is the only sane solution. Thai prisons are horrible. I feel happy for the drug dealers sent to prison for ruining lives of other people by distributing the disease. Prisons deter little but keep the trash off the street. Drug use does not punish the dealer but his clients. Decriminalization should be tried in an isolated zone before making uneducated decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 11 hours ago, rascalman said: Play with the bull you get the horns! No sympathy here! Yep. If you're not willing to do the time, don't do the crime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wake Up said: He sold meth to try to get lots of cash. Lock him up and talk about the lives he destroyed not his worthless I made a mistake BS. Agreed, then had the gall to have a family member pay his way out after serving only one 1/10th of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtumwrong Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Nyezhov said: I think drug laws are stupid. I think drugs should be legal and freely distributed. That would keep the crime rate down and the population of losers. Nothing like a bit of scag to lower life expectancy. That being said, until the dope utopia occurs, you plays the game, you takes your chances. Yeah, use the net tax payers's money to distribute free drugs, then free healthcare, paid of course by the net tax payers, to fix what can be fixed. Anything with an IQ below 100 will go into that vicious circle and never get out. Brave new World (a book), it had that model for the 'common people'. All they need are drugs and reality tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Nyezhov said: I think drug laws are stupid. I think drugs should be legal and freely distributed. That would keep the crime rate down and the population of losers. Nothing like a bit of scag to lower life expectancy. That being said, until the dope utopia occurs, you plays the game, you takes your chances. I think drug users are stupid. I wouldn't mind if that population of losers who use drugs overdose and die. Lower their life expectancy and clear the world of some losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bbi1 said: I think drug users are stupid. I wouldn't mind if that population of losers who use drugs overdose and die. Lower their life expectancy and clear the world of some losers. LOL. And what meets your definition of 'drugs'? One man's trash is another man's treasure, depending upon the country. Ganja is legal in several countries and partially legal in others, yet it is an illegal 'drug' in Thailand. You think people who smoke ganja should be put to death? How............enlightened of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveyh Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 It's simple: Don't do drugs in Thailand as the penalties are severe. Those that choose to continue with their habit must accept the fact that here in Thailand it's "zero tolerance". I've no sympathy with anyone selling drugs here personally. To better their lives financially they ruin others ........... fact. It's a criminal offence to sell drugs, hence if you are caught you go to prison. In some countries the penalty is death & complaining about the treatment they get in prison is pathetic. All drug pushers/dealers should be dealt with severely, serve a maximum of five years in a Thai jail before being repatriated to their country of origin. No bonds should be paid as all penalties should fit the crime ........ your ability to post bond to release you from prison should never be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said: LOL. And what meets your definition of 'drugs'? One man's trash is another man's treasure, depending upon the country. Ganja is legal in several countries and partially legal in others, yet it is an illegal 'drug' in Thailand. You think people who smoke ganja should be put to death? How............enlightened of you. Anything that's considered illegal. And yes to your question. We don't need those losers in our society. They contribute to the pollution by smoking that stuff too and nobody wants to breathe stuff others are smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Kadilo said: Can’t see his book being a best seller. Typical greedy dumb Brit who now wants some kind of sympathy. It's promo for the episode airing in March "Locked Up Abroad" Thai Meth Bust (TV Episode 2019) - IMDb Jimmy gives up his job as a postman to open a bar in Thailand, but quickly starts dealing meth. The police get wise and in a dramatic takedown bust him and send him to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWRC Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 It should have been the death penalty, no complaining afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sead Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I feel more sorry for those who lost their life due to his meth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hide behind the Cannabis Bush, crafty, its a good opening defence gambit but its just a Beer, its not Class A that ruins lives, just makes em look dim as a drunk, talk as much crap and equally smelly. China/Spore has the right Class A way , no way, Execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Drug crimes are victimless crimes. No one is forced to takes drugs. Anything people decide to do to themselves should never be a crime. The cowards and hypocrites who applaud the death penalty here are easily pictured: ruddy-faced, orange peel skin, ethanol-pickled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallangpakwan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 12 hours ago, rascalman said: Play with the bull you get the horns! No sympathy here! To me, if you knowingly break the law, jail or whatever was your choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trexpat Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Who gives a shit - zero sympathy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Lot of his tale doesn't add up . Gets 30 years and out in 3 after brother coughs up 85,000 gbp and finishes time in wandsworth. Sold it for 130 gbp a gram ?? Don't know but im pretty sure all these meth heads aren't running around buying the stuff at that price !! His brother just gave away 85k like that because he loved him so much ? I thought wandsworth was a high risk place for severe criminals and lifers who are a danger to others ? Been in samui for 11 years and never heard of him , his bar or his story . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 A few years back a young English guy got caught importing drugs into Thailand and he got something like 50 years and did 8 years here before being shipped back to the UK, I dont know if he's still in jail in the UK I think at the time it was upto the Thai's how much time he would do in an English jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, JackGats said: Drug crimes are victimless crimes. No one is forced to takes drugs. Anything people decide to do to themselves should never be a crime. The cowards and hypocrites who applaud the death penalty here are easily pictured: ruddy-faced, orange peel skin, ethanol-pickled. Not the most well thought out comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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