webfact Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Motorbike rider dies in head-on between Patong and Kamala – VIDEO By The Thaiger & The Nation PHOTOS: Phuket Traffic Report A motorbike driver has died as a result of injuries sustained when his motorbike collided, head on, with a mini van. Kamala rescue workers were notified of the incident on the Patong-Kamala road at 20.57 pm last night. The head-on collision happened just near the entrance to Nakalay Palm condo. Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/motorbike-rider-dies-in-head-on-between-patong-and-kamala-video -- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-01-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 For once the van driver appears to be blameless. He was definitely in his own lane when the bike suddenly veered out of the traffic at high speed and impacted him. No time to avoid it. No word yet on the deceased nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 The more people that get splattered the more coverage that gets shown the more the little driving standard inexplicably go's down???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 There appeared to be another bike behind the car being overtaken. The rider who died may have been focusing on overtaking two vehicles at an irresponsibly high speed and just hoped by tucking in close to the centre line, he could force oncoming vehicles to yield on to the hard shoulder. My observation of Thais overtaking (particularly motorbikes) is that they first position themselves very close to the car's rear offside bumper. Then they pop out. The thinking may be the further forward they are the quicker they can get past or there may be no thinking at all. The reality is that they commence the overtaking manouevre blind. This is very dangerous. Before overtaking the driver should be able to see the whole manouevre from start to finish in his mind. If you have no idea what vehicles if any are oncoming, then this mental imagery is impossible and overtaking is like playing Russian roulette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupdragon Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Was there contact between the two oncoming motorbikes causing the victim to swerve into the oncoming van ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Old Croc said: For once the van driver appears to be blameless. He was definitely in his own lane when the bike suddenly veered out of the traffic at high speed and impacted him. No time to avoid it. No word yet on the deceased nationality. From the article: UK citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, Soupdragon said: Was there contact between the two oncoming motorbikes causing the victim to swerve into the oncoming van ? It doesn't look like it on the video. I understand where you're coming from, it was strange to just veer off to his right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: There appeared to be another bike behind the car being overtaken. The rider who died may have been focusing on overtaking two vehicles at an irresponsibly high speed and just hoped by tucking in close to the centre line, he could force oncoming vehicles to yield on to the hard shoulder. <snip> He was still far away from the car when he veered off course, and he was also way over the centre line. Your thinking is contradicted by the facts of the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: There appeared to be another bike behind the car being overtaken. The rider who died may have been focusing on overtaking two vehicles at an irresponsibly high speed and just hoped by tucking in close to the centre line, he could force oncoming vehicles to yield on to the hard shoulder. My observation of Thais overtaking (particularly motorbikes) is that they first position themselves very close to the car's rear offside bumper. Then they pop out. The thinking may be the further forward they are the quicker they can get past or there may be no thinking at all. The reality is that they commence the overtaking manouevre blind. This is very dangerous. Before overtaking the driver should be able to see the whole manouevre from start to finish in his mind. If you have no idea what vehicles if any are oncoming, then this mental imagery is impossible and overtaking is like playing Russian roulette. What does this have to do with a Brit on a bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevenl said: He was still far away from the car when he veered off course, and he was also way over the centre line. Your thinking is contradicted by the facts of the video. Come on - you know armchair thaigeezer assessments are always the right ones! They don't know cause they weren't there man. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soupdragon Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, stevenl said: It doesn't look like it on the video. I understand where you're coming from, it was strange to just veer off to his right. Just as he passes the other bike the victims bike leans to the right and he veers across the road. It looks like contact of some kind was made, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Old Croc said: For once the van driver appears to be blameless. He was definitely in his own lane when the bike suddenly veered out of the traffic at high speed and impacted him. No time to avoid it. No word yet on the deceased nationality. Apart from the clear statement that he was a UK citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 British tourist dies in Kamala collision By Eakkapop Thongtub The scene of the accident on the coastal road in Kamala where a British tourist died after crashing his motorcycle into an oncoming van. Photo: Kamala Rescue Services PHUKET: A British tourist has died after he lost control of his motorbike and collided with a van near Kamala last night (Jan 24). Lt Col Yossaphat Suwannasit of Kamala Police was notified of the incident at 9pm and arrived with Kamala rescue services at the scene near the police box on the coastal road in Kamala where they found a British man lying unconscious on the road. Col Yossaphat said, “Around 40 metres from the motorbike, we found a white van parked on the road that leads to Patong. The front of the van was damaged. The van driver was identified as Mr Sanakorn Boonjirapol.” Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/british-tourist-dies-in-kamala-collision-70150.php#iP7RVLK2BM4a1Oea.97 -- © Copyright Phuket News 2019-01-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Psimbo said: What does this have to do with a Brit on a bike? It's a implication that as a non-Thai driver he knows everything, is a perfect driver and never makes mistakes or takes risks like everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 High killing season. Almost daily some report from the tourist hot-spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 That slight bit of rain makes the road very slippery. It hasn't rained in a while, so some oil build up and a slight rain makes for slippery conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 From the video the impression I get is that the bike that crashed into the minibus first crashed at speed into the rear of a slower moving bike making into swerve right into oncoming traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokie Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Speed played a part and looked like an involuntary control input (was not a normal change of direction) he looked like he was bobbing on a bit and just as it seems like he was about to make contact with the leading bike his machine makes the strange turn input that puts him in arms way into oncoming traffic. Did the lead rider jump on his brakes behind the vehicle in front when the rider behind thought they were both going for it and was going to overtake the vehicle? Did Alcohol play a part in poor judgement? A medical emergency?? we don't know... Either way Mini van driver not at fault and lucky he was not injured or worse RIP to the rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Old Croc said: For once the van driver appears to be blameless. He was definitely in his own lane when the bike suddenly veered out of the traffic at high speed and impacted him. No time to avoid it. No word yet on the deceased nationality. Its written in the headline for the link to this article that he is British.... Also its stated here: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/motorbike-rider-dies-in-head-on-between-patong-and-kamala-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, ttrd said: Its written in the headline for the link to this article that he is British.... Also its stated here: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/motorbike-rider-dies-in-head-on-between-patong-and-kamala-video And has been indicated multiple times already by other posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, stevenl said: And has been indicated multiple times already by other posters. Yes, I missed that part of the report and you corrected me.. The other two posters who found it necessary to continue to highlight my error are people I've called out on bigger issues elsewhere. This pettiness is their way of getting back at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Briggsy said: is like playing Russian roulette. with all the chambers full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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