PremiumLane Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Artisi said: Sterilisation works, sort of and for a while, a continual cull gives a permanent solution. No it doesn't, and how long will this cull have to go on for? Decades? Sterilization starts bringing down the population straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Get rid of them all immediately i say. Enough is enough. Its a human world not planet of the dogs. The other day wild dogs killed one of my dogs on my property. The dogs belong to a neighbour who flattly refused they were the owners even though theyve had the dogs the entire time weve lived here and i have it on camera. So instead of owning up and even offering a 100b apology atleast the main culprit dog has dissapeared and the police wouldnt do anything even though for the first time the police here actually assisted which was new. My bigger german shephards i have to keep inside even though i have 15rai because neighbours wont keep there dam dogs to themselves and i have to protect mine as mine are fed and looked after therefore not viscous pack animals. Funny fact is my neighbours encourage there dogs to be annoying. I have run down about 4 and shot one and slit the throats of 2 Most in retaliation for killing goats and for trying to bite my son on the way to school. Im doing my part to make thailand great again or for the first time or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippBKK Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The answer: Extermination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The easy solution, designed for night time. Bit noisly though. I would suggest ear muffs.That brings back memories!!!!!Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, PremiumLane said: it is not a false dichotomy of 'bleeding heart dog brigade' vs the kill em all brigade. Research shows that sterilization will bring down the stray dog populations, and that mean a concerted effort from the government to make this happen, not just the work of animal welfare charities such as Soi Dog. Culling, however attractive it might seem, will not work long term - populations will increase again. Yes, these specific dogs should be put down as they are a danger, but a long term solution to the problem is needed not just knee jerk reactions that lead nowhere. Sterilization not only brings down the populations but also helps curb anti-social behavior in the dogs - males dogs become less territorial and aggressive etc. However, this requires planning and thorough implementation, so I won't hold my breath. To expensive. 9mm or club is more cost effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Some troll posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazeeboy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The government should step in and sort this not leave it to the Western SOI dogs and the like ,the government are a shower of ,when it comes to important things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: One kid gets attacked and people expect the government to do something !!! 25,000 die each year on the roads and the government hardly lift their snouts from the trough to take air.... True what you said, but it's not the same As most ( not all ) of what you see on the roads is self-inflicted by selfish idiots. This was a little boy going out to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Feeders should be arrested and thrown in jail. No food, no dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 53 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: One kid gets attacked and people expect the government to do something !!! They would, if someone only had a video of the attack and had posted it on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Whats it coming to when a young lad cannot play on the beach, without nearly losing his life,and suffering horrendous injuries, maybe now the powers that be will act and do something about the dangerous menace that are feral dogs,they usually move to do something AFTER the fact,so lets hope they get their finger out and come up with an urgent solution. regards worgeordie I always enjoy your sense of humour - - you certainly haven't missed this time, "do something" 555555555 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: No it doesn't, and how long will this cull have to go on for? Decades? Sterilization starts bringing down the population straight away The cull would bring down the population faster and more 'straight away' then going around the country and collecting each and every dog, giving it an operation and taking it back to where it was caught. There are so many now that sterilising the lot is too big a job, and its going to be so easy to miss a lot of them... which would leave more to reproduced anyway. Cull the lot. In the future, any stay is collected, owner has 7 days to collect the dog, then its destroyed. No more dogs roaming the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, overherebc said: The easy solution, designed for night time. Bit noisly though. I would suggest ear muffs. Silencer does the trick and doesn't scare off the targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vacuum said: They would, if someone only had a video of the attack and had posted it on Facebook. The powers that be would claim "fake news" and the PM would rephase his statement to "no Thai dog would do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, stanleycoin said: True what you said, but it's not the same As most ( not all ) of what you see on the roads is self-inflicted by selfish idiots. This was a little boy going out to play. Correct, he (the boy) had no input what-so-ever into the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 53 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: No it doesn't, and how long will this cull have to go on for? Decades? Sterilization starts bringing down the population straight away Would suggest a handful of properly armed military guys would reduce the dog population at a much higher rate than sterilisation, probably in the order of 200 to 1 each day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Boy seriously injured after mauling by dogs near Sarasin Bridge By Kritsada Mueanhawong A seven year old boy has been seriously injured after being attacked and mauled by a group of dogs near Sarasin Bridge. Sarasin Bridge connects Phuket with the Thai mainland. The seven year old boy is Yueanyong ‘D-Max’ Chairab. He was attacked by four dogs at a beach near Sarasin Bridge in Thanoon, Takua Tung on the Phang Nga side yesterday morning (Sunday). About 100 bite wounds were found all over his body. He was transferred to Vachira Phuket Hospital. Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/boy-seriously-injured-after-mauling-by-dogs-near-sarasin-bridge -- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-01-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, PremiumLane said: it is not a false dichotomy of 'bleeding heart dog brigade' vs the kill em all brigade. Research shows that sterilization will bring down the stray dog populations, and that mean a concerted effort from the government to make this happen, not just the work of animal welfare charities such as Soi Dog. Culling, however attractive it might seem, will not work long term - populations will increase again. Yes, these specific dogs should be put down as they are a danger, but a long term solution to the problem is needed not just knee jerk reactions that lead nowhere. Sterilization not only brings down the populations but also helps curb anti-social behavior in the dogs - males dogs become less territorial and aggressive etc. However, this requires planning and thorough implementation, so I won't hold my breath. Maybe sterelization could reduce the number of stray dogs, in cities, but as many Thai men seem to be opposed to the (less important and cheaper) castration of male dogs... As for the less populated areas, like villages and coutryside, it won't solve anything, as the dogs on the streets, and in other public areas, do belong to people living in the neighborhood who let them run around free. I've seen it quite many times, and they 'don't see, don't hear' when their dogs(s) get aggressive, or even bite you, or your pet dog on a line! But, use a stick or a stone to protect yourself, and then they wake up and yell: what do you do to my dog, stop with that, go away, etc. ..., while still doing nothing about their dog(s). In our 400m. long Soi, there are well 20 of such dogs, we cannot even walk the street with our own dog on a line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, bangrak said: Maybe sterelization could reduce the number of stray dogs, in cities, but as many Thai men seem to be opposed to the (less important and cheaper) castration of male dogs... As for the less populated areas, like villages and coutryside, it won't solve anything, as the dogs on the streets, and in other public areas, do belong to people living in the neighborhood who let them run around free. I've seen it quite many times, and they 'don't see, don't hear' when their dogs(s) get aggressive, or even bite you, or your pet dog on a line! But, use a stick or a stone to protect yourself, and then they wake up and yell: what do you do to my dog, stop with that, go away, etc. ..., while still doing nothing about their dog(s). In our 400m. long Soi, there are well 20 of such dogs, we cannot even walk the street with our own dog on a line! it is really simple, sterilized dogs can't have countless litters, so the population goes down. LIke I said, it takes a concerted effort by the government (yeah, I know!) I don't know why a dog being in the countryside or the city makes any difference at all... and yes some are owned by owners, but if it is a government program then it can be done.... yes, yes, I know, TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli65 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 the thai government should remove all these useless monsters in the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 48 minutes ago, Artisi said: Silencer does the trick and doesn't scare off the targets. ...But is ILLEGAL, even on licensed carbines, and will bring you in BIG trouble with police, ...when you're not some phu yai or a member of such a family of course, but as they mostly own some of these canine pest themselve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: it is really simple, sterilized dogs can't have countless litters, so the population goes down. LIke I said, it takes a concerted effort by the government (yeah, I know!) I don't know why a dog being in the countryside or the city makes any difference at all... and yes some are owned by owners, but if it is a government program then it can be done.... yes, yes, I know, TIT It's real simple. Dogs can't breed if they are dead. Also the selfish thai's, won't be sterilizing there dog after the kids have got bored of it, and he dumps it in the soi. Like they do all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Asia[edit] An estimated 31,000 human deaths due to rabies occur annually in Asia,[1] with the majority – approximately 20,000 – concentrated in India.[2] Worldwide, India has the highest rate of human rabies in the world primarily due to stray dogs. Because of a decline in the number of vultures due to acute poisoning by the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac (vultures themselves are not susceptible to rabies), animal carcasses that would have been consumed by vultures instead became available for consumption by feral dogs, resulting in a growth of the dog population and thus a larger pool of carriers for the rabies virus.[3] Another reason for the great increase in the number of stray dogs is the 2001 law that forbade the killing of dogs.[2] In many Asian countries which still have a high prevalence of rabies, such as Vietnam and Thailand, the virus is primarily transmitted through canines (feral dogs and other wild canine species).[4] Another source of rabies in Asia is the pet boom. wiki It may take a major epidemic of rabies to get the Thais on board of this potentially very serious problem. I believe they would act (mass culling/mass registration) if it directly affected their tourist dollars. Interesting in the above wiki note that India's problems related to diclofenac usage (probably in high usage here with all the old expats lol). Hopefully the kid pulls through and the dogs were not rabid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 ...but...but...but...Thais are such good Buddhists, they can not kill animals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, stanleycoin said: True what you said, but it's not the same As most ( not all ) of what you see on the roads is self-inflicted by selfish idiots. This was a little boy going out to play. Not really.. Plenty of innocent people are killed every day on the roads here. Nothing is done about anything here, they just don't give a shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I hope some member of the family to this child would make a serious attempt to get rid off these dogs. I know I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, uli65 said: the thai government should remove all these useless monsters in the streets dogs or drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vacuum said: I hope some member of the family to this child would make a serious attempt to get rid off these dogs. I know I would. If it were me, it would already be in-place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, DM07 said: ...but...but...but...Thais are such good Buddhists, they can not kill animals! guess humans are a different animal and don't count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, bangrak said: ...But is ILLEGAL, even on licensed carbines, and will bring you in BIG trouble with police, ...when you're not some phu yai or a member of such a family of course, but as they mostly own some of these canine pest themselve… easily made legal to those who have a need to shoot every soi dog found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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